Out of all the teams who have been in the prem for all those 10 years, we are, with the exception of Fulham, the worst team.
Quote from: Pat McMahon on December 30, 2013, 05:08:11 PMWe were very good at home for all my youth through to the mid 80s, particularly under Ron Saunders. In fact, under Saunders, Villa Park was pretty much a fortress. I grew up watching Villa being strong at home so find our home form of the past few years really galling. The facts say otherwise. From getting promoted to Saunders leaving we lost by my reckoning 25 home league games in just over 6 1/2 seasons. It's a good record but it's not a fortress.
We were very good at home for all my youth through to the mid 80s, particularly under Ron Saunders. In fact, under Saunders, Villa Park was pretty much a fortress. I grew up watching Villa being strong at home so find our home form of the past few years really galling.
Quote from: Trinitymiddle on December 30, 2013, 05:29:30 PMOut of all the teams who have been in the prem for all those 10 years, we are, with the exception of Fulham, the worst team.Is your cup half empty by any chance?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2013, 05:11:34 PMQuote from: Pat McMahon on December 30, 2013, 05:08:11 PMWe were very good at home for all my youth through to the mid 80s, particularly under Ron Saunders. In fact, under Saunders, Villa Park was pretty much a fortress. I grew up watching Villa being strong at home so find our home form of the past few years really galling. The facts say otherwise. From getting promoted to Saunders leaving we lost by my reckoning 25 home league games in just over 6 1/2 seasons. It's a good record but it's not a fortress.In 1976/77 that great season where we had our most exciting team, trouncing Arsenal and Liverpool 5-1 we only lost one home match in league and cups.
Quote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: Trinitymiddle on December 30, 2013, 05:29:30 PMOut of all the teams who have been in the prem for all those 10 years, we are, with the exception of Fulham, the worst team.Is your cup half empty by any chance?What's that got to do with pessimism? The facts are all to plain to see.
Quote from: usav on December 30, 2013, 05:42:11 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: Trinitymiddle on December 30, 2013, 05:29:30 PMOut of all the teams who have been in the prem for all those 10 years, we are, with the exception of Fulham, the worst team.Is your cup half empty by any chance?What's that got to do with pessimism? The facts are all to plain to see.It's taking a table where we're 8th out of 35th and saying, yeah, well we're almost the worst if you exclude the bottom 26!!!
Quote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 05:44:56 PMQuote from: usav on December 30, 2013, 05:42:11 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: Trinitymiddle on December 30, 2013, 05:29:30 PMOut of all the teams who have been in the prem for all those 10 years, we are, with the exception of Fulham, the worst team.Is your cup half empty by any chance?What's that got to do with pessimism? The facts are all to plain to see.It's taking a table where we're 8th out of 35th and saying, yeah, well we're almost the worst if you exclude the bottom 26!!!We're one from bottom of the 9 ever presents. That just about sums up the last 10 years, am it's not a good stat.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2013, 05:51:58 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 05:44:56 PMQuote from: usav on December 30, 2013, 05:42:11 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: Trinitymiddle on December 30, 2013, 05:29:30 PMOut of all the teams who have been in the prem for all those 10 years, we are, with the exception of Fulham, the worst team.Is your cup half empty by any chance?What's that got to do with pessimism? The facts are all to plain to see.It's taking a table where we're 8th out of 35th and saying, yeah, well we're almost the worst if you exclude the bottom 26!!!We're one from bottom of the 9 ever presents. That just about sums up the last 10 years, am it's not a good stat. It's taking one group of clubs from one specific period. It's a completely irrelevant stat.
So to sum up - if we take out all the good years, and take away all the teams who are worse than us, we're at the bottom.
Now matter how you try, Dave, you'll struggle to find a positive with this topic.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on December 30, 2013, 05:51:58 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 05:44:56 PMQuote from: usav on December 30, 2013, 05:42:11 PMQuote from: Ad@m on December 30, 2013, 05:36:10 PMQuote from: Trinitymiddle on December 30, 2013, 05:29:30 PMOut of all the teams who have been in the prem for all those 10 years, we are, with the exception of Fulham, the worst team.Is your cup half empty by any chance?What's that got to do with pessimism? The facts are all to plain to see.It's taking a table where we're 8th out of 35th and saying, yeah, well we're almost the worst if you exclude the bottom 26!!!We're one from bottom of the 9 ever presents. That just about sums up the last 10 years, am it's not a good stat. So we're one of only 9 ever presents in the top flight since 2003 out of a total of 35 teams. I'd say that is a good stat and one at least 26 other clubs are jealous of.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 30, 2013, 06:00:42 PMSo to sum up - if we take out all the good years, and take away all the teams who are worse than us, we're at the bottom.If you took out the 3 or so good years we'd be bottom of the ever present table and not 2nd bottom. Now matter how you try, Dave, you'll struggle to find a positive with this topic.