Quote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 10:24:17 PMQuote from: littlevillain on September 27, 2013, 10:06:41 PMIts a violent world unfortunately and getting beaten up or beating someone up was definitely part of growing up for me. I'm not saying this in any macho way at all, that's just the way it was. In fact when i meet other people who didn't grow up like this I'm always baffled as it amazes me that people led nice, civilized lives. Horrible reallyMy thoughts exactly LV. I know your background and family and you know something of mine. Our mom and dad were born in 1921 and 1911 respectively, in Selly Oak and Balsall Heath. Our mom's entire immediate family except her were dead from TB or war by the time she was 19. 'Peaky Blinders' was their world, that's one generation ago for me and lots of working class people.I'm surprised people are surprised that we haven't become a nation of Renaissance men over the last few decades.Eh?Your mom was born in 1911?
Quote from: littlevillain on September 27, 2013, 10:06:41 PMIts a violent world unfortunately and getting beaten up or beating someone up was definitely part of growing up for me. I'm not saying this in any macho way at all, that's just the way it was. In fact when i meet other people who didn't grow up like this I'm always baffled as it amazes me that people led nice, civilized lives. Horrible reallyMy thoughts exactly LV. I know your background and family and you know something of mine. Our mom and dad were born in 1921 and 1911 respectively, in Selly Oak and Balsall Heath. Our mom's entire immediate family except her were dead from TB or war by the time she was 19. 'Peaky Blinders' was their world, that's one generation ago for me and lots of working class people.I'm surprised people are surprised that we haven't become a nation of Renaissance men over the last few decades.
Its a violent world unfortunately and getting beaten up or beating someone up was definitely part of growing up for me. I'm not saying this in any macho way at all, that's just the way it was. In fact when i meet other people who didn't grow up like this I'm always baffled as it amazes me that people led nice, civilized lives. Horrible really
Fair enough, but even so, I had assumed you were about my age (i.e. born mid 60s), that's one feisty old fella right there.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 11:27:18 PMQuote from: dekko on September 27, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 09:33:48 PMQuote from: dekko on September 27, 2013, 08:43:02 PMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 07:16:35 PMThe funniest time was when I was with a red-haired Irish Catholic boxer and we got into a discussion about racism when he said he thought the MOBO awards were racist. We were in the Catholic Club, both pissed, and to cut a long story short the debate developed and came to a head when I said Jesus was black. 'How do you work that out?' he said and, pointing to a picture of Our Saviour on the wall, I said that considering where he was born and what everybody else round there looked like, if he came out with blonde hair and blue eyes like that picture, it's no wonder his mom was coming out with all sorts of bullshit about who the father was.And then he chinned me.This is amazingHow so?It made me laugh like an idiotYeah, though I say so myself I thought it was really funny. That must have been ten/fifteen years ago, but coincidentally I saw him the other day. We were pissed again, and I reminded him of the entire conversation. 'Don't do it again' he said, glaring at me. 'But doncha think it was funny though?' I said.'You're doing it again' he said, so I kinda left it. Then he told me a really heart-warming story that had caused him to re-think his attitude to race and racism and we kind of bonded. Just goes to show that people are not complete pinheads or completely perfect, they're just shaped by their experience and their environment.I also did laugh at that line. I hope to use it one day in conversation.
Quote from: dekko on September 27, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 09:33:48 PMQuote from: dekko on September 27, 2013, 08:43:02 PMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 07:16:35 PMThe funniest time was when I was with a red-haired Irish Catholic boxer and we got into a discussion about racism when he said he thought the MOBO awards were racist. We were in the Catholic Club, both pissed, and to cut a long story short the debate developed and came to a head when I said Jesus was black. 'How do you work that out?' he said and, pointing to a picture of Our Saviour on the wall, I said that considering where he was born and what everybody else round there looked like, if he came out with blonde hair and blue eyes like that picture, it's no wonder his mom was coming out with all sorts of bullshit about who the father was.And then he chinned me.This is amazingHow so?It made me laugh like an idiotYeah, though I say so myself I thought it was really funny. That must have been ten/fifteen years ago, but coincidentally I saw him the other day. We were pissed again, and I reminded him of the entire conversation. 'Don't do it again' he said, glaring at me. 'But doncha think it was funny though?' I said.'You're doing it again' he said, so I kinda left it. Then he told me a really heart-warming story that had caused him to re-think his attitude to race and racism and we kind of bonded. Just goes to show that people are not complete pinheads or completely perfect, they're just shaped by their experience and their environment.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 09:33:48 PMQuote from: dekko on September 27, 2013, 08:43:02 PMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 07:16:35 PMThe funniest time was when I was with a red-haired Irish Catholic boxer and we got into a discussion about racism when he said he thought the MOBO awards were racist. We were in the Catholic Club, both pissed, and to cut a long story short the debate developed and came to a head when I said Jesus was black. 'How do you work that out?' he said and, pointing to a picture of Our Saviour on the wall, I said that considering where he was born and what everybody else round there looked like, if he came out with blonde hair and blue eyes like that picture, it's no wonder his mom was coming out with all sorts of bullshit about who the father was.And then he chinned me.This is amazingHow so?It made me laugh like an idiot
Quote from: dekko on September 27, 2013, 08:43:02 PMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 07:16:35 PMThe funniest time was when I was with a red-haired Irish Catholic boxer and we got into a discussion about racism when he said he thought the MOBO awards were racist. We were in the Catholic Club, both pissed, and to cut a long story short the debate developed and came to a head when I said Jesus was black. 'How do you work that out?' he said and, pointing to a picture of Our Saviour on the wall, I said that considering where he was born and what everybody else round there looked like, if he came out with blonde hair and blue eyes like that picture, it's no wonder his mom was coming out with all sorts of bullshit about who the father was.And then he chinned me.This is amazingHow so?
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 07:16:35 PMThe funniest time was when I was with a red-haired Irish Catholic boxer and we got into a discussion about racism when he said he thought the MOBO awards were racist. We were in the Catholic Club, both pissed, and to cut a long story short the debate developed and came to a head when I said Jesus was black. 'How do you work that out?' he said and, pointing to a picture of Our Saviour on the wall, I said that considering where he was born and what everybody else round there looked like, if he came out with blonde hair and blue eyes like that picture, it's no wonder his mom was coming out with all sorts of bullshit about who the father was.And then he chinned me.This is amazing
The funniest time was when I was with a red-haired Irish Catholic boxer and we got into a discussion about racism when he said he thought the MOBO awards were racist. We were in the Catholic Club, both pissed, and to cut a long story short the debate developed and came to a head when I said Jesus was black. 'How do you work that out?' he said and, pointing to a picture of Our Saviour on the wall, I said that considering where he was born and what everybody else round there looked like, if he came out with blonde hair and blue eyes like that picture, it's no wonder his mom was coming out with all sorts of bullshit about who the father was.And then he chinned me.
Quote from: eastie on September 27, 2013, 07:31:00 PMFortunately I've never been beaten up and never beaten anyone up or come anywhere close to a fight , so at the age of 48 i hope that remains to be the case .You must be considerably less annoying in real life (wink).
Fortunately I've never been beaten up and never beaten anyone up or come anywhere close to a fight , so at the age of 48 i hope that remains to be the case .
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 08:03:59 PMQuote from: eastie on September 27, 2013, 07:31:00 PMFortunately I've never been beaten up and never beaten anyone up or come anywhere close to a fight , so at the age of 48 i hope that remains to be the case .You must be considerably less annoying in real life (wink).I guess thats what's called a Percy sledge
Quote from: eastie on September 29, 2013, 03:29:39 PMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 08:03:59 PMQuote from: eastie on September 27, 2013, 07:31:00 PMFortunately I've never been beaten up and never beaten anyone up or come anywhere close to a fight , so at the age of 48 i hope that remains to be the case .You must be considerably less annoying in real life (wink).I guess thats what's called a Percy sledge ;)Funny! From both of you.I got 'done over' when I was about 15, walking home in a crombie and oxford bags. Some 'leather-clad youths' didn't like my clothing choice and decided to rearrange my face.Happy days, the 1970's.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on September 27, 2013, 08:03:59 PMQuote from: eastie on September 27, 2013, 07:31:00 PMFortunately I've never been beaten up and never beaten anyone up or come anywhere close to a fight , so at the age of 48 i hope that remains to be the case .You must be considerably less annoying in real life (wink).I guess thats what's called a Percy sledge ;)