How many points will keep us up?

[Villafirst]

The killer would be going down on goal difference which would sum up the season as Chelsea started all this turmoil.

I certainly wasn't thinking of relegation in the aftermath of Liverpool away.

Yep, Chelsea followed by Spurs and Wigan has wrecked us beyond repair

[The Man With A Stick]

Didn't realise we had Chelsea in the last but one game.  Let's hope that if we're already down then we can fuck their season up in a similar manner that they did ours, even if it just means breaking a few legs here and there.

Are they still in any of the cups?

[Greg N'Ash]

35 points, so 15 points from 14 games for us. Hmmmm. Think it will be around there myself. You look at Norwich and west ham on 27 points who i think are safe - they'd need 8 points from 14 games to get there - think they'll easily do that.

Newcastle who IMO are the lowest club in danger would need 11 points in 14 games so 3 wins and 2 draws. Gettable again. whatever way you look at it we've got to stop giving wins to our relegation rivals. Wigan, QPR and Reading we need to beat, and something from Sunderland, Fulham and west ham at home would be nice

[Legion]

I'll be surprised if we reach 30.

[Surrey Villain]

What was the lowest points to have survived?

[damon loves JT]

What was the lowest points to have survived?

34. West Ham once went down with 42, according to the internet.

I don't think mathematics will save us if we don't work out how to defend.

[Surrey Villain]

What was the lowest points to have survived?

34. West Ham once went down with 42, according to the internet.

I don't think mathematics will save us if we don't work out how to defend.

True Damon, but if they could play 90 minutes each match the way they played the second half against Newcastle they could just score more goals than they concede, occasionally anyway - how about six games? I always think attack is the best form of defence so as we haven't got a defence that has to be the way and we do have enough strikers if they are used properly. Unfortunately despite that bit of optimism I do think Lambert is picking teams to lose!

[damon loves JT]

The pre-Chelsea form was good enough to keep us up. Just about.

[martin o`who??]

I hate to say it, but i dont think we`ll even get that.

[SoccerHQ]

What was the lowest points to have survived?

34. West Ham once went down with 42, according to the internet.

I don't think mathematics will save us if we don't work out how to defend.

In 09/10 I'm pretty sure Burnley and Hull both went down on 31 points so 32 points were enough that year.

[nodge]

I have been having a look at our remaining games.
Trying to be objective and not letting my heart rule my head, I have come up with the following possible results:

Everton - draw
West Ham - Villa win
Arsenal - Villa loss
Man City - Villa loss
Reading - Villa win
QPR - Villa win
Liverpool - draw
Stoke - Villa loss
Fulham - Villa win
Man Utd - Villa loss
Sunderland - draw
Norwich - Villa loss
Chelsea - Villa loss
Wigan - Villa loss

This would leave us finishing our league campaign on 35 points.

Is that enough?

Good start !

[SoccerHQ]

West Ham is the final one for me.

We have to beat them or I think it's curtains particularly with this form Reading are in.

[olaftab]

I don't think mathematics will save us if we don't work out how to defend.

I think you will find that numbers will matter in the end however we defend.

[walsall villain]

West Ham is the final one for me.

We have to beat them or I think it's curtains particularly with this form Reading are in.

Yet another must win game. I agree, final chance.
The frustrating thing for me is that we have let so many away points go by letting the lead go. And in the last 2 home games I think we were very close to a point each time. That's 8 points we could have got but didn't. To be honest I think this is how it will continue but a flicker of hope remains.
35 points definitely not enough.

[myf]

the pressures on now against the irons and we know how badly this team deals with pressure