collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

Other Games - 2023/24 by kippaxvilla2
[Today at 09:32:52 PM]


Aston Villa vs Chelsea pre-match thread by Somniloquism
[Today at 09:30:40 PM]


Season Tickets - 2023/24 by Somniloquism
[Today at 09:28:41 PM]


UEFA Europa Conference League-Knockout stages (Olympiacos) by Flamingo Lane
[Today at 09:26:55 PM]


Diego Carlos by Somniloquism
[Today at 09:23:18 PM]


Ollie Watkins by Drummond
[Today at 09:20:21 PM]


Chris Heck - President of Business Operations by algy
[Today at 09:18:36 PM]


Unai Emery - our manager by AV84
[Today at 09:01:25 PM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated  (Read 18775 times)

Offline Fin Feds Dad

  • Member
  • Posts: 1386
  • Location: M6 north
  • GM : 09.08.2016
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2013, 08:57:04 PM »
This club is sleepwalking to Division 1 - shambles.

Offline Villadroid

  • Member
  • Posts: 648
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2013, 09:04:17 PM »
I must thank Pauliewalnuts because until he presented the evidence that Villa is a badly run club, I actually believed that it might be true.

You don't have to think too long, when presented with the examples he offers, to conclude that Villa are not a badly run club.

Certainly not brilliant but not bad by football's standards.

Once the examples of Birmingham, Leeds and Newcastle are offered up, clubs which range from from the criminal to the ridiculous, Villa's minor failings are put into perspective.

The assumption that the only criterion of a well-run club is the avoidance of relegation at any price is seriously flawed.

For those who think entirely in terms of consuming the football product these things cannot matter, but for anyone who thinks they support a club, I am afraid they must.

So thanks Pauliewalnuts, you brought light to a gloomy night.
 

Offline dicedlam

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 3206
  • GM : 11.08.2024
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2013, 09:06:40 PM »
The money we've spent on compensating former managers alone is staggering.  How much we had to pay SHA for poaching TSM and then TSM himself for fucking him off is scandalous, especially when you consider there were only two, possibly, three men on the face of the earth who thought appointing him was a good idea.

The whole concept of having to *pay* Small Heath for the manager who had just got them relegated whilst playing the most nauseatingly sterile brand of football seen for years is just incredible, but yep, we did that.

This for me very much sums up the inept manner in which the senior management run the club.

Offline bertlambshank

  • Member
  • Posts: 11512
  • Location: looking down the barrel of a Smith&Wesson.
  • GM : 30.06.2019
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2013, 09:07:36 PM »
Minor failing's,dear God don't feed him.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

  • Member
  • Posts: 26039
  • Location: Up and down, i'm up the wall, i'm up the bloody tree
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2013, 09:09:20 PM »
You'll never get some on here to accept we're a badly run club.
True.
But why?

Offline TopDeck113

  • Member
  • Posts: 9653
  • Location: Oop North
  • GM : 27.07.2023
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2013, 09:13:06 PM »
You'll never get some on here to accept we're a badly run club.
True.
But why?

God knows, because - and I have no pleasure in being right - some of us have been saying it for an awfully long time.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 09:25:42 PM by TopDeck113 »

Offline TonyD

  • Member
  • Posts: 9577
  • Location: Outside the box
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2013, 09:19:57 PM »
Randy let MON spunk all the money of the holiday on the first couple of nights on cocktails and lap dancing.  We are now struggling to survive the rest of holiday on bottles of San Miguel cooling in the bath before the plane home.

Offline danlanza

  • Member
  • Posts: 9156
  • Location: Up in the hills overlooking the ocean.
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2013, 09:23:54 PM »
Randy let MON spunk all the money of the holiday on the first couple of nights on cocktails and lap dancing.  We are now struggling to survive the rest of holiday on bottles of San Miguel cooling in the bath before the plane home.
Fuck all wrong with a cold bath full of San Miguel 8)

Offline Des Little

  • Member
  • Posts: 12469
  • Location: A5 Ultra
  • GM : 03.05.2021
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2013, 09:27:53 PM »
Randy let MON spunk all the money of the holiday on the first couple of nights on cocktails and lap dancing.  We are now struggling to survive the rest of holiday on bottles of San Miguel cooling in the bath before the plane home.
Fuck all wrong with a cold bath full of San Miguel 8)

We're minesweeping for lukewarm halves of Amstel

Offline bertlambshank

  • Member
  • Posts: 11512
  • Location: looking down the barrel of a Smith&Wesson.
  • GM : 30.06.2019
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2013, 09:29:18 PM »
Randy let MON spunk all the money of the holiday on the first couple of nights on cocktails and lap dancing.  We are now struggling to survive the rest of holiday on bottles of San Miguel cooling in the bath before the plane home.
Fuck all wrong with a cold bath full of San Miguel 8)

We're minesweeping for lukewarm halves of Amstel
Skol skol skol skol skol skol skol skol skol.

Offline NeilH

  • Member
  • Posts: 2964
  • Location: Haarlem, NL, Orval in hand
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2013, 09:31:00 PM »
Jesus, I really picked the wrong month to decide to go tee total didn't I!!!

Offline Risso

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 85496
  • Location: Leics
  • GM : 04.03.2025
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2013, 09:32:05 PM »
I must thank Pauliewalnuts because until he presented the evidence that Villa is a badly run club, I actually believed that it might be true.

You don't have to think too long, when presented with the examples he offers, to conclude that Villa are not a badly run club.

Certainly not brilliant but not bad by football's standards.

Once the examples of Birmingham, Leeds and Newcastle are offered up, clubs which range from from the criminal to the ridiculous, Villa's minor failings are put into perspective.

The assumption that the only criterion of a well-run club is the avoidance of relegation at any price is seriously flawed.

For those who think entirely in terms of consuming the football product these things cannot matter, but for anyone who thinks they support a club, I am afraid they must.

So thanks Pauliewalnuts, you brought light to a gloomy night.
 

It's far from the only criteria.

How about four successive years of huge losses in the accounts?  Check
Selling all of the valuable assets of the company and replacing them with inferior replacements? Check
A falling and unhappy consumer base? Check
Likely to miss out on a huge increase in turnover as a result of getting relegated? Check
Poor customer relations and no apparent strategy for success? Check
A feeble and ineffective board led by somebody completely out of his depth? Check

Offline TonyD

  • Member
  • Posts: 9577
  • Location: Outside the box
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2013, 09:32:26 PM »
Randy let MON spunk all the money of the holiday on the first couple of nights on cocktails and lap dancing.  We are now struggling to survive the rest of holiday on bottles of San Miguel cooling in the bath before the plane home.
Fuck all wrong with a cold bath full of San Miguel 8)

Full English in the afternoon, 12 bottles of Sami and 20 cheap bennies.  The cornerstone of every 80's holiday.

Offline David_Nab

  • Member
  • Posts: 4269
  • Location: Luton
  • GM : 24.12.2015
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2013, 09:34:44 PM »
I doubt this is the first we will see of this view now , we are the biggest club in trouble now and the media are having a field day.

The fact is we spent more than Spurs net had a higher wage bill and look at us ..utter shambles.We sold Downing ,Milner and Young and wasted the cash we got in.The managerial appointments have been a disaster and I am starting to class Lambert in with that too.


Offline Trinitymiddle

  • Member
  • Posts: 293
  • Location: Erdington
Re: Badly run clubs eventually get relegated
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2013, 09:46:55 PM »
Even if we escape relegation this year, with Randy's grip on the purse strings, does anyone really believe that it we wont be battling relegation again next year? Its been like this for 3 seasons now, I'm getting tired of it, and if you take out the MON era, its been like it since midway through Gregory's reign as manager, give or take a season.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal