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Author Topic: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again  (Read 112366 times)

Offline Hookeysmith

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Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« on: January 07, 2013, 08:21:37 AM »
Will some one please tell this guy he is not Messi and to take him off free kicks and corners
Thought Delph showed some good disicpline on saturday but Bannan again totally frustrated the hell out of me and i would imagine a lot of others

He is nowhere near as good as he thinks he is - the sooner Westwood is back the better

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 08:25:16 AM »
agreed, as a"dead ball" specialist he is very poor.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 08:27:27 AM »
Ashley Young used to do my head in. Thought he had the right to take everything. Once in a while he would deliver some magic, more often than not he was poor.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 08:27:35 AM »
When N'Zogbia is playing, he should take the free kicks around the edge of the box. He scored a few like that for Wigan and had a close one on Saturday. Bannan's passing needs to improve. He must stop hitting every ball with the ouside of his boot. Getting the ball on target must be his first concern, not flicking it around like trying to get it to bend.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 08:32:48 AM »
Almost every pass he trys is a 'Hollywood Ball', he looks much better when he plays it simple.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 08:37:10 AM »
I agree and was very frustrated with him Saturday. Two points though:

- it was his first time ball zipped into n'zogbia's feet that have him the space to play in bent for the first goal. Not many on our team can do that
- he seems to play a lot better with Westwood who will get and give it back over 10 yards, allowing them to function as a partnership.

Still fucking irritated me on Saturday though

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 08:40:51 AM »
Almost every pass he trys is a 'Hollywood Ball', he looks much better when he plays it simple.


I didn't want to be the first to say the 'H' word.

;D

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 08:41:26 AM »
There was a bloke behind me in the Lower Holte on Saturday who was giving Bannan such over the top dog's abuse every time he touched the ball that it got to the point that everyone around me was laughing.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 08:41:35 AM »
It's the dead ball delivery that so frustrating, floated into the box, no zip on it, often overhit... it's no wonder we don't score from many corners.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2013, 08:43:11 AM »
- it was his first time ball zipped into n'zogbia's feet that have him the space to play in bent for the first goal. Not many on our team can do that

This is the frustrating thing. We know he can do better but he needs to get the 'big time Charlie' bit out of his game. Some call for him to be sold while others can see a decent player in there that just needs fine tuning, starting with a bit of coarse tuning first..

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2013, 08:47:07 AM »
Even when we've been battered, he's still looked for the ball and tried to compete.

He's still learning, but he's got technical abilty and movement, and he's a proper footballer.

He'll be a great player.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2013, 09:09:36 AM »
Even when we've been battered, he's still looked for the ball and tried to compete.

He's still learning, but he's got technical abilty and movement, and he's a proper footballer.

He'll be a great player.

Totally agree. All this 'almost every pass he tries is a Hollywood Ball' is absolute bollocks. At first he tried too many yes, but he's cut them down now and looks a better player for it. The older he gets, the better he'll become.

Offline Summers

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2013, 09:21:43 AM »
Intended to pretty much say what Clampy said. Last season Bannan was all about "hollywood balls" however this season under Lambo he's been much more disciplined. In so many league games he's kept it simple all while working hard. He's having a good season and the abuse is silly.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2013, 09:26:57 AM »
Good to see how Delph was gesturing to colleagues to come towards him to play one-twos around the opposition.Bannan's idea of a one-two is off a defender with no opponent nearby.A total luxury who can't defend and whose playmaking ability is grossly exaggerated.

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Re: Barry "Messi" Bannan - again
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2013, 09:48:50 AM »
Last season I'm convinced Bannan was told to try to create from nothing by hitting 50-60 yard passes regularly, it seemed to fit perfectly with the style of play TSM adopted.

This year he's much more disciplined but because people tagged him as hollywood everyone jumps all over him if he overhits a long pass but there's no credit given when he hits those passes well and creates chances.

As I put on another thread his number of 'key passes' (one that lead to goal scoring chances) is roughly double everyone else in the team, he's the 1 midfielder we have who has consistently made things happen this season, and yet half the fans are constantly on his back for every misplaced pass.

Given how many of his passes are forward his completion rate for the season of 80 odd % is very good as well.

Yet another of our kids who gets judged far too harshly after a couple of seasons where he's struggled to adapt due to the instability at first team level, the worst thing is, if you defend him and point out the stats that show he's a lot better than he gets credit for you're accused  of being lenient because you've seen him in the reserves or because he's 'one of ours'.

I firmly believe that he could be very successful in a 3 with Westwood and a big athletic  player (a Yaya Toure capable of being the defensive or attacking 1 of the 3 would be perfect but an Ian Taylor working up and down as a box-tobox player would an excellent alternative).

 


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