Quote from: Damo70 on October 26, 2017, 07:38:01 AMWe ruined Guzan. After all the goals he/we conceded the poor f***er was shellshocked by the time he left us.Na, he was never good enough to be a number one keeper and he was only promoted to that position because he was cheap. Decent for a back up role but he should never have been our first choice. Personally I thought he was bloody useless.
We ruined Guzan. After all the goals he/we conceded the poor f***er was shellshocked by the time he left us.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on October 26, 2017, 05:41:07 PMQuote from: Damo70 on October 26, 2017, 07:38:01 AMWe ruined Guzan. After all the goals he/we conceded the poor f***er was shellshocked by the time he left us.Na, he was never good enough to be a number one keeper and he was only promoted to that position because he was cheap. Decent for a back up role but he should never have been our first choice. Personally I thought he was bloody useless.It was time to say goodbye by the end, but he was plenty better than what he replaced or what replaced him.Damning with faint praise admittedly.
Quote from: Dave on October 26, 2017, 07:12:19 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on October 26, 2017, 05:41:07 PMQuote from: Damo70 on October 26, 2017, 07:38:01 AMWe ruined Guzan. After all the goals he/we conceded the poor f***er was shellshocked by the time he left us.Na, he was never good enough to be a number one keeper and he was only promoted to that position because he was cheap. Decent for a back up role but he should never have been our first choice. Personally I thought he was bloody useless.It was time to say goodbye by the end, but he was plenty better than what he replaced or what replaced him.Damning with faint praise admittedly.He made me angry with his part in what was probably the best performance by a Villa side in years away at Man City, he lost me then.
Quote from: Damo70 on October 26, 2017, 07:38:01 AMWe ruined Guzan. After all the goals he/we conceded the poor f***er was shellshocked by the time he left us.Na, he was never good enough to be a number one keeper and he was only promoted to that position because he was cheap.
A poor mans Friedel.
Complete and utter revisionism to suggest he was never good enough to be the starter. Decent backups don't hold their form for a full season like he did (after taking over from Given three games into the 2012-13 season), and his form only dwindled from the second half of the 2013-14 season.The absolute worst kicker I've seen at the professional level though - even when he was good, he was only barely capable of punting it up the pitch, so no surprise that becoming incapable of even doing that constantly would affect the rest of his game.
Quote from: passitsideways on October 26, 2017, 11:13:27 PMComplete and utter revisionism to suggest he was never good enough to be the starter. Decent backups don't hold their form for a full season like he did (after taking over from Given three games into the 2012-13 season), and his form only dwindled from the second half of the 2013-14 season.The absolute worst kicker I've seen at the professional level though - even when he was good, he was only barely capable of punting it up the pitch, so no surprise that becoming incapable of even doing that constantly would affect the rest of his game.He was released then re-signed when we realised an upgrade would cost more money than we would pay. It was one of those moments when we realised we were being run by an idiot, and it summed up our decline as a club. It’s not revisionism, I said at the time it was a bonkers decision to make a player our first choice keeper just weeks after letting him go for not being good enough. I never rated him from day one, he was rubbish in my opinion.
Great shot stopper and he saved us from dropping two points yesterday. I still think he occasionally flaps at crosses though.