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Online Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #570 on: August 22, 2015, 05:49:18 PM »
What amazes me is before turning to goalkeeping he was apparently a midfielder. So much of his game is great but he has to be the worst keeper I can think of with the ball at his feet.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #571 on: August 22, 2015, 05:53:06 PM »
May be he was shite in midfield...which is why he's now a goalkeeper.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #572 on: August 22, 2015, 07:18:27 PM »
Agreed, but keepers are under the microscope more than most other positions, look at how badly Encks and Carson went down hill after a set back.

A lot of my memory of the Enckleman time is a bit fuzzy, but with Carson I'm not sure that he really went down hill - I don't remember him being anything other than mediocre for us. As I recall it was a bit of a shock that he was picked for that Croatia game based on his form at the time.

It's easy to forget as that was nearly 8 years ago, blimey how time flies eh?  But looking back, he'd only played 10 games for us before the two Autumn England games, and my recollection was that he'd been doing very well.  He'd kept five clean sheets out of 10, and we were 7th in the table with a game in hand.

There was the Harewood 4-4 with Spuds, and he'd been ridiculously sent off v Man U, but on the whole I vaguely recall us all mostly being pleased with him, and that he deserved his England call up alongside others like Barry and Ashley Young.
You're probably right - might be the rubbish in the second half of the season overwriting the good stuff from the start from my head.

5 clean sheets in his first 10 games clearly isn't bad at all.

We were probably still a bit picky in those days!

I can only imagine the opposition in those 5 games failed to hit a shot on target because I had him nailed on as hopeless from day 1 and was astounded when he got selected for England, and completely unsurprised when he threw the game away.   As some one said, anything hit on target from within a 40 yard radius would sail past him and he seemed to only start to react when the ball had already travelled 38 of those yards and was pretty much already in.  Liverpool are and were renowned for talking up some of their rejects and we should think ourselves lucky O'Neill only fell for the 2m loan fee and not the full 10m con trick.  Didn't Albion end up falling for it, albeit at a reduced level post Croatia?

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #573 on: August 22, 2015, 08:25:41 PM »
May be he was shite in midfield...which is why he's now a goalkeeper.

No shit, Sherlock. ;)

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #574 on: August 22, 2015, 08:46:45 PM »
Still a very good keeper and easily one of the best in the league for me.  He had a bit of a patchy season last year, but had two very good ones before that and we're only three games into this season.  No reason to change him.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #575 on: August 22, 2015, 08:47:47 PM »
Brad MLS is calling. Go and make your name there.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #576 on: August 22, 2015, 10:43:44 PM »
Three seasons ago he was excellent, two seasons ago good, last season average.
He is in a free fall, and we  desperately need a reliable keeper.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #577 on: August 22, 2015, 10:52:23 PM »
Three seasons ago he was excellent, two seasons ago good, last season average.
He is in a free fall, and we  desperately need a reliable keeper.


I'm afraid I agree with that.

He's a mistake waiting to happen at the moment, and has been for a fair while. His distribution is just too bad for words.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #578 on: August 22, 2015, 10:52:32 PM »
He is not good enough by a mile.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #579 on: August 22, 2015, 11:09:29 PM »
He's always looking to time waste if he thinks we have something to hold on to so he's negative in his outlook which in turn leads to errors of judgement. He had ages to do something with the ball and then rolled it out to a player under pressure.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #580 on: August 22, 2015, 11:15:34 PM »
He's always looking to time waste if he thinks we have something to hold on to so he's negative in his outlook which in turn leads to errors of judgement. He had ages to do something with the ball and then rolled it out to a player under pressure.

To be fair I think that is wrong. He was looking for options and made a wrong one.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #581 on: August 23, 2015, 09:42:14 AM »
Struggling to think of viable alternatives but yesterday highlighted to me that there are issues with his distribution.  Typically/Ironically he looked very competent at the actual keeping parts versus palace.

Ideally we would find a bidder for him so we could sell at his value - he's a good keeper so we should fetch 5m - whereas if he has a year as an understudy we would do well to find a club willing to take on his wages.  Sell for 5m and buy new for 10m is not going to break the bank (wages neutral) whereas a 10m deficit and two keepers on big wages is the sort of logic which got us into this mess in the first place.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #582 on: August 23, 2015, 09:44:35 AM »
Guzan is drinking in the last chance saloon . I don't think TS rates him.
Bunn will be in goal soon.

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #583 on: August 23, 2015, 09:46:24 AM »
Guzan is drinking in the last chance saloon . I don't think TS rates him.
Bunn will be in goal soon.
As soon as Tuesday

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Re: The Brad Guzan Appreciation thread.
« Reply #584 on: August 23, 2015, 06:58:35 PM »
His distribution is getting worse, so obviously it has got to him, it puts extra pressure on the team.
throw in an increasing number of mistakes.

 


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