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Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« on: October 08, 2012, 06:28:14 PM »
A multimillionaire former Premier League football boss is behind Britain's bestselling super-strength cider.

Doug Ellis, the former chairman of Aston Villa who was nicknamed "deadly", controls the maker of Frosty Jack's, whose sales rocketed by 40 per cent last year helped by controversial online marketing aimed at young people.

At 7.5 per cent alcohol, Frosty Jack's, made by the Aston Manor Brewing Company, is 60 per cent stronger than Stella Artois. According to the College of Physicians and alcohol charities, super-strong ciders and beers are causing problems among alcoholics because of their cheapness and potency.

At the request of the police and NHS in Ipswich, the Co-op is removing all ciders and beers above 6.5 per cent from its 54 stores in Suffolk and the Government is considering a 40p minimum price per unit of alcohol.

Concerned at their social impact, the Magners owner, C&C, said it intends to withdraw from sale three high-strength ciders, Diamond White, White Star, and K, which it inherited from its takeover of Gaymers two years ago.

Britain's biggest independent cider maker, the Aston Manor Brewery Company appears to be moving in the opposite direction.

The Birmingham -based firm makes a range of ciders including the 5.3 per cent Kingstone Press, but its biggest – and fastest-growing – brand is Frosty Jack's, which it portrays on YouTube and Facebook as a wacky alternative to mainstream drinks.

Aston Manor did not respond to The Independent's request for comment, but its website says the drink has achieved its success "through a full, integrated digital marketing campaign with a particular emphasis on social media". This includes a series of celebrity podcasts filmed in conjunction with the men's magazine, Loaded.

The Advertising Standards Authority banned three "irresponsible" online ads for Frosty Jack's in June, saying the "irreverent and juvenile" humour was likely to appeal to young people.

According to the market researcher Nielsen, Frosty Jack's had retail sales of 32 million litres in the year to September, around £40m by value, more than six times those of its next competitor, White Star.

Aston Manor's website makes no mention of the role of Mr Ellis, 88, whose 24-year stewardship of Aston Villa prior to its sale to Randy Lerner six years ago, was unpopular with fans. Accounts lodged at Companies House show Mr Ellis has the "controlling interest" in the company, of which his son, Peter, is managing director.

In an interview with the Western Morning News last September, Peter Ellis said: "People are turning to cider because it's less expensive and there's no viable alternative in terms of innovation, in wine and beer."

Aston Manor's sales rose from £79m in 2010 to £106m last year, though profits fell from £4.9m to £2m because of rising raw commodity costs and the installation of a new canning production line to cope with higher demand.

A two-litre bottle of Frosty Jack's with 15 units of alcohol is on sale at Tesco for £3.79, equivalent to 40p per unit.

Sir Ian Gilmour, a liver specialist and alcohol spokesman at the Royal College of Physicians, which backs a 50p per unit minimum price, said: "It's very difficult to square a position of social responsibility in marketing and selling white cider at a fraction of what would be a reasonable minimum price."

C&C emphasised that it saw its future in mainstream cider, rather than its high-strength variants. "The main spend and marketing pressure within C&C is within the Magners and Gaymers brands," a spokesman said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/deadly-doug-ellis-the-former-football-club-owner-behind-superstrength-cider-targeted-at-the-young-8201334.html

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2012, 06:31:42 PM »
I went past the Aston Manor Brewery today, I've often wondered what brands they made.

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2012, 06:38:23 PM »
The Kingstone Press cider isn't too bad at all.

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2012, 06:38:27 PM »

At 7.5 per cent alcohol, Frosty Jack's, made by the Aston Manor Brewing Company, is 60 per cent stronger than Stella Artois. According to the College of Physicians and alcohol charities, super-strong ciders and beers are causing problems among alcoholics because of their cheapness and potency.

At the request of the police and NHS in Ipswich, the Co-op is removing all ciders and beers above 6.5 per cent from its 54 stores in Suffolk and the Government is considering a 40p minimum price per unit of alcohol.

A two-litre bottle of Frosty Jack's with 15 units of alcohol is on sale at Tesco for £3.79, equivalent to 40p per unit.


Problem?

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2012, 06:48:08 PM »
At the request of the police and NHS in Ipswich, the Co-op is removing all ciders and beers above 6.5 per cent from its 54 stores in Suffolk and the Government is considering a 40p minimum price per unit of alcohol.

A two-litre bottle of Frosty Jack's with 15 units of alcohol is on sale at Tesco for £3.79, equivalent to 40p per unit.


Problem?
Stupid twunts don't even care about the alcohol problem as long as they get their taxes from it. Just pretending to be doing something to keep face as per usual.

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2012, 06:52:17 PM »
The Kingstone Press cider isn't too bad at all.
Made in Devon.I worked at the brewery for 4 years.Doug and his son Peter are to say the least strange.

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2012, 06:52:46 PM »
Brollocks to you Ellish yer bashard !...White Lightning for me now.

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2012, 07:09:24 PM »
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Aston Manor's sales rose from £79m in 2010 to £106m last year, though profits fell from £4.9m to £2m because of rising raw commodity costs and the installation of a new canning production line to cope with higher demand.

Ellis investing? I half expected to read profits fell due to Doug Ellis awarding himself a £2.9m salary.

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 07:10:41 PM »
At the request of the police and NHS in Ipswich, the Co-op is removing all ciders and beers above 6.5 per cent from its 54 stores in Suffolk and the Government is considering a 40p minimum price per unit of alcohol.

A two-litre bottle of Frosty Jack's with 15 units of alcohol is on sale at Tesco for £3.79, equivalent to 40p per unit.


Problem?
Stupid twunts don't even care about the alcohol problem as long as they get their taxes from it. Just pretending to be doing something to keep face as per usual.
except that 15 x 40p = £6.00

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2012, 07:26:07 PM »
Frosty Jacks used to be the afternoon 3 litre tipple of the Kidderminster Alki.... They've moved on to K now it comes in cans, so they lose less if they cos caught with it in the no alcohol zone and have 1 open and it's nearly 1% stronger. I once asked if it tasted better, the reply 'who the fuck cares you fucking flith '. The kids tend to have the Frosty Jacks as it is a little bit cheaper and is more easily disguised as pop when they take the label off.

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2012, 08:02:47 PM »
Didn't Aston Manor invent the widget?

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2012, 08:05:14 PM »
Didn't Aston Manor invent the widget?

I think Doug did, he came up with the idea when he was celebrating inventing the bicycle kick.

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2012, 08:11:04 PM »
At the request of the police and NHS in Ipswich, the Co-op is removing all ciders and beers above 6.5 per cent from its 54 stores in Suffolk and the Government is considering a 40p minimum price per unit of alcohol.

A two-litre bottle of Frosty Jack's with 15 units of alcohol is on sale at Tesco for £3.79, equivalent to 40p per unit.


Problem?
Stupid twunts don't even care about the alcohol problem as long as they get their taxes from it. Just pretending to be doing something to keep face as per usual.
except that 15 x 40p = £6.00
Haha! That'll teach me to do my own arithmatic in future. :D

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2012, 08:14:02 PM »
Didn't Aston Manor invent the widget?
Widget in a bottle.Stupid idea.

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Re: Doug Ellis - patron saint of alkies
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2012, 08:21:01 PM »
I'm sticking to Stowford Press thanks.

 


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