Quote from: nigel on August 22, 2016, 05:44:00 PMQuote from: Virgil Caine on August 22, 2016, 04:21:31 PMPerhaps it is a case of Lowton has benefitted from some proper coaching and has improved - Villa did have a remarkable gift for turning decent players into crap. Hopefully those days are in the past.My thoughts, too.He was very good going forward, could certainly cross a ball and he could read the game pretty well.If only he'd have had some proper defensive coaching.As you say, he joined us during a period where we turned decent players to crap.I don't know what you mean when you claim he read the game well when his positional sense was absolutely appalling. Also I don't go with the "poor coaching" routine that some of our fans spout regarding the last 6 years either. We just bought inferior players not fit for the PL. Claiming its down to poor coaching sounds like a convenient excuse to me.
Quote from: Virgil Caine on August 22, 2016, 04:21:31 PMPerhaps it is a case of Lowton has benefitted from some proper coaching and has improved - Villa did have a remarkable gift for turning decent players into crap. Hopefully those days are in the past.My thoughts, too.He was very good going forward, could certainly cross a ball and he could read the game pretty well.If only he'd have had some proper defensive coaching.As you say, he joined us during a period where we turned decent players to crap.
Perhaps it is a case of Lowton has benefitted from some proper coaching and has improved - Villa did have a remarkable gift for turning decent players into crap. Hopefully those days are in the past.
Since Houllier left up to the end of last season, how many players have improved at the Villa besides Delph and Benteke? We must be talking about 50 odd players in 5 years and I can think of 2 that improved. No matter how bad you think our transfer policy was in that time, it shows there has been something fundamentally wrong with the coaching for years regardless of who was manager.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on August 22, 2016, 06:35:10 PMQuote from: nigel on August 22, 2016, 05:44:00 PMQuote from: Virgil Caine on August 22, 2016, 04:21:31 PMPerhaps it is a case of Lowton has benefitted from some proper coaching and has improved - Villa did have a remarkable gift for turning decent players into crap. Hopefully those days are in the past.My thoughts, too.He was very good going forward, could certainly cross a ball and he could read the game pretty well.If only he'd have had some proper defensive coaching.As you say, he joined us during a period where we turned decent players to crap.I don't know what you mean when you claim he read the game well when his positional sense was absolutely appalling. Also I don't go with the "poor coaching" routine that some of our fans spout regarding the last 6 years either. We just bought inferior players not fit for the PL. Claiming its down to poor coaching sounds like a convenient excuse to me.You obviously thought Lambert a good coach then? After his first season we should have kicked on, the players bought in, and through, didn't look that out of place in the Prem, certainly easy mid table standard. Every one went backwards in the second season. That can only be down to coaching.
Quote from: nigel on August 22, 2016, 08:38:45 PMQuote from: saunders_heroes on August 22, 2016, 06:35:10 PMQuote from: nigel on August 22, 2016, 05:44:00 PMQuote from: Virgil Caine on August 22, 2016, 04:21:31 PMPerhaps it is a case of Lowton has benefitted from some proper coaching and has improved - Villa did have a remarkable gift for turning decent players into crap. Hopefully those days are in the past.My thoughts, too.He was very good going forward, could certainly cross a ball and he could read the game pretty well.If only he'd have had some proper defensive coaching.As you say, he joined us during a period where we turned decent players to crap.I don't know what you mean when you claim he read the game well when his positional sense was absolutely appalling. Also I don't go with the "poor coaching" routine that some of our fans spout regarding the last 6 years either. We just bought inferior players not fit for the PL. Claiming its down to poor coaching sounds like a convenient excuse to me.You obviously thought Lambert a good coach then? After his first season we should have kicked on, the players bought in, and through, didn't look that out of place in the Prem, certainly easy mid table standard. Every one went backwards in the second season. That can only be down to coaching.Or not so good players having a one off season. Like a really shit version of Leicester.
Lowton is was better than any of our current options at right back.No idea why he went from OK, to poor but ad you say we managed to make players regress.
Reasonable going forward but a poor defender. I'll remember his positives though - a wonder goal at Stoke and an amazing individual performance at home to Sunderland when we gave them a real good hiding.
It's hard to think of a player that's even slightly improved in their time with us of late. Fullbacks especially, all make a bright start then rapidly get shitter right before our eyes.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on August 22, 2016, 09:37:14 PMLowton is was better than any of our current options at right back.No idea why he went from OK, to poor but ad you say we managed to make players regress.Wasn't there a breaking down of the relationship over that summer. Something about whether he lived in Sheffield or something. His Mrs was on twitter about it.
Quote from: Lastfootstamper on August 22, 2016, 07:32:36 PMIt's hard to think of a player that's even slightly improved in their time with us of late. Fullbacks especially, all make a bright start then rapidly get shitter right before our eyes. From Warnock until today, they turn up looking a great investment but within a few months they get Villaised. If only it was the full backs.
Quote from: Somniloquism on August 22, 2016, 11:02:09 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on August 22, 2016, 09:37:14 PMLowton is was better than any of our current options at right back.No idea why he went from OK, to poor but ad you say we managed to make players regress.Wasn't there a breaking down of the relationship over that summer. Something about whether he lived in Sheffield or something. His Mrs was on twitter about it.this was also when bullying was common under the Lambert regime.