Quote from: Monty on April 20, 2012, 12:08:31 PMQuote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 20, 2012, 11:22:28 AMQuoteThe 67-year-old, who led Villa to second place in 1990 before becoming England manager, explained: "I just think it's better to lose a game by trying to win it. I don't expect everyone to agree with me but it's better for the supporters, spectators and the game as a whole. That is the implied criticism, which is as far as close as anyone in the little cliquey network of football managers and ex-managers has come to criticising McLeish openly (much as I love SGT, hes definitely in that old-boys' network).However, it does really annoy me that he plays up the Blues angle like everyone else. It's just not fecking true, The sad thing is though, it is true. Even if he'd kept Blues up last year, i still think there would have been hostility towards his appointment.
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 20, 2012, 11:22:28 AMQuoteThe 67-year-old, who led Villa to second place in 1990 before becoming England manager, explained: "I just think it's better to lose a game by trying to win it. I don't expect everyone to agree with me but it's better for the supporters, spectators and the game as a whole. That is the implied criticism, which is as far as close as anyone in the little cliquey network of football managers and ex-managers has come to criticising McLeish openly (much as I love SGT, hes definitely in that old-boys' network).However, it does really annoy me that he plays up the Blues angle like everyone else. It's just not fecking true,
QuoteThe 67-year-old, who led Villa to second place in 1990 before becoming England manager, explained: "I just think it's better to lose a game by trying to win it. I don't expect everyone to agree with me but it's better for the supporters, spectators and the game as a whole.
The 67-year-old, who led Villa to second place in 1990 before becoming England manager, explained: "I just think it's better to lose a game by trying to win it. I don't expect everyone to agree with me but it's better for the supporters, spectators and the game as a whole.
Quote from: Clampy on April 20, 2012, 12:42:11 PMQuote from: Monty on April 20, 2012, 12:08:31 PMQuote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 20, 2012, 11:22:28 AMQuoteThe 67-year-old, who led Villa to second place in 1990 before becoming England manager, explained: "I just think it's better to lose a game by trying to win it. I don't expect everyone to agree with me but it's better for the supporters, spectators and the game as a whole. That is the implied criticism, which is as far as close as anyone in the little cliquey network of football managers and ex-managers has come to criticising McLeish openly (much as I love SGT, hes definitely in that old-boys' network).However, it does really annoy me that he plays up the Blues angle like everyone else. It's just not fecking true, The sad thing is though, it is true. Even if he'd kept Blues up last year, i still think there would have been hostility towards his appointment. Well yeah, because he's rubbish regardless. Had Blues finished mid-table-to-top-half playing nice football and winning a few games (not to mention admirers, something they were, and we are, conspicuously short of) I for one would not have objected. In fact, if he were a good manager, the fact that he came from Blues would have been a petty little bonus, a nice thought that we can just pinch anyone we want from them. The fact that we paid them for his services is just astonishing.
I do wonder what the reaction would have been if he'd left Small Heath the week after they'd won the League Cup, with his record including a succession of promotion, top half finish, mid-table and a trophy.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2012, 12:55:41 PMI do wonder what the reaction would have been if he'd left Small Heath the week after they'd won the League Cup, with his record including a succession of promotion, top half finish, mid-table and a trophy. Promotion isn't much to boast about, seeing as he got them relegated in the first place.For me, it wouldn't have changed anything - the stultifyingly negative football was still there
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2012, 12:55:41 PMI do wonder what the reaction would have been if he'd left Small Heath the week after they'd won the League Cup, with his record including a succession of promotion, top half finish, mid-table and a trophy. It still would'nt have gone down well in some quarters but the appointment would have been more acceptable obviously. Giving it to him when they did though........
Quote from: Clampy on April 20, 2012, 12:59:29 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2012, 12:55:41 PMI do wonder what the reaction would have been if he'd left Small Heath the week after they'd won the League Cup, with his record including a succession of promotion, top half finish, mid-table and a trophy. It still would'nt have gone down well in some quarters but the appointment would have been more acceptable obviously. Giving it to him when they did though........I agree that it was utterly incomprehensible, but I do wonder if the Small Heath thing would have still made him unpopular at any time.
He also didn't fall into the lazy trap of saying we don't like him because he is ex blues, he just pointed out that someone coming from them is going to need to get off to a better start than if they had come from somewhere else.