Quote from: MonsXI on April 01, 2012, 08:09:54 PMQuote from: VillaBobby on April 01, 2012, 08:04:11 PMQuote from: MonsXI on April 01, 2012, 07:53:35 PMHow come Celtic have played against plenty of English teams over the last 5/10 years with no trouble? Are those saying there would be trouble therefore saying it would come from our fans?They played Blues, trouble, they played Chelsea, trouble, they played United, trouble.Was that because of the "English disease"?Or maybe The people from those cities were the most blighted by Republican terrorism didn't take to kindly to patronising songs about Irish liberation meaning their fellow people being murdered sang about in some sort of romantic way that they were all the problem.English disease?Did they play Blues in the last 5/10 years? Was there trouble with Utd? Chelsea Celtic is always going to go off but purely because links between Rangers and Chelsea.I was at the Ricoh when Cov played Celtic and no trouble whatsoever I also know there was no trouble when they played Man City.Personally I would prefer to Bulgaria or a world xiYes there was trouble with United. Yes there was trouble with Blues.3 main cities that bore the brunt of sectarian ignorance. Perhaps you are right, welcome them down. Though I guarantee you one thing, There will be Brummies who will react to IRA songs, then you can give them all a knowing look and say, behave.
Quote from: VillaBobby on April 01, 2012, 08:04:11 PMQuote from: MonsXI on April 01, 2012, 07:53:35 PMHow come Celtic have played against plenty of English teams over the last 5/10 years with no trouble? Are those saying there would be trouble therefore saying it would come from our fans?They played Blues, trouble, they played Chelsea, trouble, they played United, trouble.Was that because of the "English disease"?Or maybe The people from those cities were the most blighted by Republican terrorism didn't take to kindly to patronising songs about Irish liberation meaning their fellow people being murdered sang about in some sort of romantic way that they were all the problem.English disease?Did they play Blues in the last 5/10 years? Was there trouble with Utd? Chelsea Celtic is always going to go off but purely because links between Rangers and Chelsea.I was at the Ricoh when Cov played Celtic and no trouble whatsoever I also know there was no trouble when they played Man City.Personally I would prefer to Bulgaria or a world xi
Quote from: MonsXI on April 01, 2012, 07:53:35 PMHow come Celtic have played against plenty of English teams over the last 5/10 years with no trouble? Are those saying there would be trouble therefore saying it would come from our fans?They played Blues, trouble, they played Chelsea, trouble, they played United, trouble.Was that because of the "English disease"?Or maybe The people from those cities were the most blighted by Republican terrorism didn't take to kindly to patronising songs about Irish liberation meaning their fellow people being murdered sang about in some sort of romantic way that they were all the problem.
How come Celtic have played against plenty of English teams over the last 5/10 years with no trouble? Are those saying there would be trouble therefore saying it would come from our fans?
Quote from: VillaBobby on April 01, 2012, 08:15:11 PMQuote from: MonsXI on April 01, 2012, 08:09:54 PMQuote from: VillaBobby on April 01, 2012, 08:04:11 PMQuote from: MonsXI on April 01, 2012, 07:53:35 PMHow come Celtic have played against plenty of English teams over the last 5/10 years with no trouble? Are those saying there would be trouble therefore saying it would come from our fans?They played Blues, trouble, they played Chelsea, trouble, they played United, trouble.Was that because of the "English disease"?Or maybe The people from those cities were the most blighted by Republican terrorism didn't take to kindly to patronising songs about Irish liberation meaning their fellow people being murdered sang about in some sort of romantic way that they were all the problem.English disease?Did they play Blues in the last 5/10 years? Was there trouble with Utd? Chelsea Celtic is always going to go off but purely because links between Rangers and Chelsea.I was at the Ricoh when Cov played Celtic and no trouble whatsoever I also know there was no trouble when they played Man City.Personally I would prefer to Bulgaria or a world xiYes there was trouble with United. Yes there was trouble with Blues.3 main cities that bore the brunt of sectarian ignorance. Perhaps you are right, welcome them down. Though I guarantee you one thing, There will be Brummies who will react to IRA songs, then you can give them all a knowing look and say, behave.The trouble you talk of with Utd when was this? The Blues friendly was in 1976 now i was -2 at the time but wasnt violence at football the norm then?Sunny Villa - as far as I know they got done for a "fuck uefa" banner and letting of flares
Quote from: MonsXI on April 01, 2012, 08:22:13 PMQuote from: VillaBobby on April 01, 2012, 08:15:11 PMQuote from: MonsXI on April 01, 2012, 08:09:54 PMQuote from: VillaBobby on April 01, 2012, 08:04:11 PMQuote from: MonsXI on April 01, 2012, 07:53:35 PMHow come Celtic have played against plenty of English teams over the last 5/10 years with no trouble? Are those saying there would be trouble therefore saying it would come from our fans?They played Blues, trouble, they played Chelsea, trouble, they played United, trouble.Was that because of the "English disease"?Or maybe The people from those cities were the most blighted by Republican terrorism didn't take to kindly to patronising songs about Irish liberation meaning their fellow people being murdered sang about in some sort of romantic way that they were all the problem.English disease?Did they play Blues in the last 5/10 years? Was there trouble with Utd? Chelsea Celtic is always going to go off but purely because links between Rangers and Chelsea.I was at the Ricoh when Cov played Celtic and no trouble whatsoever I also know there was no trouble when they played Man City.Personally I would prefer to Bulgaria or a world xiYes there was trouble with United. Yes there was trouble with Blues.3 main cities that bore the brunt of sectarian ignorance. Perhaps you are right, welcome them down. Though I guarantee you one thing, There will be Brummies who will react to IRA songs, then you can give them all a knowing look and say, behave.The trouble you talk of with Utd when was this? The Blues friendly was in 1976 now i was -2 at the time but wasnt violence at football the norm then?Sunny Villa - as far as I know they got done for a "fuck uefa" banner and letting of flaresBlues played Celtic about 10 years ago at St Andrews, I believe Birmingham won. I also know that Digbeth was awash with Celtic fans signing IRA songs who then got battered.Man Utd have played them a few times and their last visit to Old Trafford ended in the same.I am not sure why you are trying to question the reality of Brummies not taking to kindly to a crowd of IRA supporting scum coming to Villa Park.Go on YouTube and google Celtic IRA songs, you will find videos of their supporters in England singing behind police lines.They are not welcome in my book and I guarantee trouble because most Brummies still remember the atrocities the IRA caused to many Brummie families. Songs glorying that fact will ensure unrest.That is not welcome at VillavPark, unless you believe otherwise?
As I said before look at YouTube and see as well as others.If they are prepared to sing inflammatory songs at Chelsea and Man U they will do the same.Done its course this discussion, but unless you understand it and have witnessed the anti British Vitriol then the thoughts I am putting forward are wastedFor the record I am another half Irish catholic, before any of the generalists kick in
Quote from: Sunny Villa on April 01, 2012, 08:49:18 PMAs I said before look at YouTube and see as well as others.If they are prepared to sing inflammatory songs at Chelsea and Man U they will do the same.Done its course this discussion, but unless you understand it and have witnessed the anti British Vitriol then the thoughts I am putting forward are wastedFor the record I am another half Irish catholic, before any of the generalists kick intbh mate, doesn't matter whether you're irish, catholic, protestant, scottish or english.... pro-ira scum come from everywhere {more likely the garyowen - plastic is/was all over that place!!} - and imo it's the 'generalists' that are the problem. more racist than a pint with the edl!!
Quote from: scoobydoobydont on April 01, 2012, 08:51:54 PMQuote from: Sunny Villa on April 01, 2012, 08:49:18 PMAs I said before look at YouTube and see as well as others.If they are prepared to sing inflammatory songs at Chelsea and Man U they will do the same.Done its course this discussion, but unless you understand it and have witnessed the anti British Vitriol then the thoughts I am putting forward are wastedFor the record I am another half Irish catholic, before any of the generalists kick intbh mate, doesn't matter whether you're irish, catholic, protestant, scottish or english.... pro-ira scum come from everywhere {more likely the garyowen - plastic is/was all over that place!!} - and imo it's the 'generalists' that are the problem. more racist than a pint with the edl!! There is no need for anyone on this board to justify themselves or their heritage.Aston Villa has fans from many religious, political and ethnic backgrounds. We are not a political, religious nor racist club and I don't see why we should welcome a club to Villa Park that is, unless we have to.
Quote from: VillaBobby on April 01, 2012, 09:01:14 PMQuote from: scoobydoobydont on April 01, 2012, 08:51:54 PMQuote from: Sunny Villa on April 01, 2012, 08:49:18 PMAs I said before look at YouTube and see as well as others.If they are prepared to sing inflammatory songs at Chelsea and Man U they will do the same.Done its course this discussion, but unless you understand it and have witnessed the anti British Vitriol then the thoughts I am putting forward are wastedFor the record I am another half Irish catholic, before any of the generalists kick intbh mate, doesn't matter whether you're irish, catholic, protestant, scottish or english.... pro-ira scum come from everywhere {more likely the garyowen - plastic is/was all over that place!!} - and imo it's the 'generalists' that are the problem. more racist than a pint with the edl!! There is no need for anyone on this board to justify themselves or their heritage.Aston Villa has fans from many religious, political and ethnic backgrounds. We are not a political, religious nor racist club and I don't see why we should welcome a club to Villa Park that is, unless we have to.you're right mate.my point was to enforce sunny villa's before the rhetoric started {again} hate to see politics in sport, or music... but the PC brigade would be up in arms if neither were not allowed....anyhow, fcuk it.... Villa and Proud.... UTV
What a fucking depressing thread this turned out to be.