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Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Who is to blame?
« on: March 24, 2012, 05:10:31 PM »
For the position we find ourselves in.

Simple question.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 05:11:50 PM »
MON for spunking all the money away. Lerner has to take some of the blame as well for allowing so much money to be spunked. 
« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 05:13:44 PM by PeterWithesShin »

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 05:12:28 PM »
O'Neill.

Offline The Left Side

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2012, 05:13:27 PM »
Lerner for me, he knew the appointment would be criticised but he went ahead anyway.

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 05:13:53 PM »
A mixture of the Owner for hiring the manager and the manager for being shit. It used to irritate me when the media used to patronise us, but it doesn't really now. Everything about the club at the moment is 'small time'.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 05:14:04 PM »
O'Neill.
Can you add that to the poll please Lee?

There has to come a time though when we can't keep blaming things on a previous regime, also, it was Lerner who let O'Neill loose with a cheque book.

Offline gervilla

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 05:14:55 PM »
A mixture of the Owner for hiring the manager and the manager for being shit. It used to irritate me when the media used to patronise us, but it doesn't really now. Everything about the club at the moment is 'small time'.

Correct.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2012, 05:16:00 PM »
O'Neill.
Can you add that to the poll please Lee?

There has to come a time though when we can't keep blaming things on a previous regime, also, it was Lerner who let O'Neill loose with a cheque book.

The thing is, if we (or rather MON) hadn't spunked all that money, especially on wages, we wouldn't have had to resort to AM as manager.

Offline ez

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2012, 05:16:13 PM »
Both. Lerner should never have appointed him but we should not be this bad. A better manager would have us higher up the table.

Offline eamonn

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2012, 05:20:30 PM »
The whole fucking lot of them.

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2012, 05:22:04 PM »
The referee that played three hours of injury time, Man Ure vs Sheffield Wednesday, 1993.

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2012, 05:22:08 PM »
The chairman, unfortunately.

He managed the finances in such away that it really was shit or bust, and we are now seeing the bust bit.

Worse than that, on two occasions, he displayed a staggering ineptitude in identifying a manager, such that, last time, he targeted a man who has spent most of the season bottom (again), only to get turned down and then appoint a guy who actually failed to keep his last team in the top flight.

Randy stumped up a lot of money at first, but by his own sheer incompetence has pissed away everything achieved in four years.

Look at us now. Fifteenth, dreadful team, a manager the fans loathe, no money to spend, and dwindling crowds.

In other words, exactly where we were at the end of  the 2005-6 season, except now we are hugely in debt, too.

The guy clearly had good intentions - at least till he got bored of it all - but has proven on both sides of the Atlantic that he knows nothing at all about running a sport business.

Offline django

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2012, 05:23:19 PM »
Buck stops with Lerner i'm afraid to say.

McLeish is doing a dreadful job but that's all he's capable of, we knew that before he was appointed. The whole appointment process in the summer was comically inept.

Since then there has been no sign from the club that the people at the top know what state we're in let alone what needs to be done about it.

Offline sg

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2012, 05:23:34 PM »
Mixture of both Lerner & O'neill.

It can and will be debated until the end of our lives, or at least until we win our next trophy, whichever happens sooner.

Offline barrysleftfoot

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Re: Who is to blame?
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2012, 05:36:07 PM »
  A mix of all of them.


  MON for not getting quality AND value for money.

  Randy for cutting the expenditure too savagely and too quickly, and for making such a controversial appointment.

  The players for showing so little fight and desire.

  McL for being too defeatist.


  I'm still relatively confident.GG looks as if he has all the attributes to be a very good player, Weimann looks ok, as does Herd,Hutton has'nt been as bad as some on here would have you believe, and Carlos and Collins look ok to me.Ireland is as good a player as we are going to get atm, and then you have Bent.Good investment in good, hungry players in the summer and we won't be far off.Whether McL is the manager to do that is another question.

 


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