Quote from: Colhint on March 10, 2012, 08:45:25 PMWell after Andy's goal today, its seems like we have a very good crop. I don't know whats the most we have had on the pitch at any one time, or the most we have had involved in a game including subs. Have we played a game this season without one involved.Surely if there was a league for number of acadamy players used we would piss it. Personally I think they all have a great future, including the Fonz. I think it is far too early to think any of them will be stars, or any will fail. I never really thought herd would make it and the Fonz would. At the moment it seems the other way around. But that could easily change again in the next 12 months. Then Bannan, all the talent but seems to want to play the killer ball all the time. I just wonder if he thinks he needs to make an impression too much. Super Marc doesn't seem so super at the moment, but the endeavour is there. I think once we have enough points to make sure we cant go down, the pressure on them will lift and they can play with more confidene. At that point I would love to see them get a lot more game time and not be under the cosh.I think too many kids are built up too quickly, look at Oxlade Chamberlain for example, fine player though he is. I'm sure the same was said about Theo Walcott a few years back and to me anyway hasn't hit the heights his reputation suggested. I think if we stick with them, through this big step up to the first team it could all turn out quite good really.Sorry about the Cider induced rant, its just we don't win very oftenIf your good enough your old enough, Lional Messi, only just 24 and it seems like he's been around for decades, Wayne Rooney, many more, obviously these players are the extreme examples, and to a certain extent you have to blood the perhaps not so blessed players in over time, not because of there ability but because of there confidence and standing on a pitch facing someone like Balotelli or Van Persie and not be somewhat overawed when you are playing with or against stars like these. And strength and energy levels of course IMO.
Well after Andy's goal today, its seems like we have a very good crop. I don't know whats the most we have had on the pitch at any one time, or the most we have had involved in a game including subs. Have we played a game this season without one involved.Surely if there was a league for number of acadamy players used we would piss it. Personally I think they all have a great future, including the Fonz. I think it is far too early to think any of them will be stars, or any will fail. I never really thought herd would make it and the Fonz would. At the moment it seems the other way around. But that could easily change again in the next 12 months. Then Bannan, all the talent but seems to want to play the killer ball all the time. I just wonder if he thinks he needs to make an impression too much. Super Marc doesn't seem so super at the moment, but the endeavour is there. I think once we have enough points to make sure we cant go down, the pressure on them will lift and they can play with more confidene. At that point I would love to see them get a lot more game time and not be under the cosh.I think too many kids are built up too quickly, look at Oxlade Chamberlain for example, fine player though he is. I'm sure the same was said about Theo Walcott a few years back and to me anyway hasn't hit the heights his reputation suggested. I think if we stick with them, through this big step up to the first team it could all turn out quite good really.Sorry about the Cider induced rant, its just we don't win very often
I reckon we've got the points now and should start playing Herd and Gardner as the central two. Ireland ahead of them does loads of running so they'll get support.I'd also be tempted to give Clark some games ahead of Collins too as he could play left sided with Cuellar on the right of centre.An extra 5 games experience could make a big difference to their development and also affect who we try and buy this summer.
I looked at the title of this thread and was about to call a constable.
Quote from: Dante Lavelli on March 10, 2012, 10:40:22 PMI reckon we've got the points now and should start playing Herd and Gardner as the central two. Ireland ahead of them does loads of running so they'll get support.I'd also be tempted to give Clark some games ahead of Collins too as he could play left sided with Cuellar on the right of centre.An extra 5 games experience could make a big difference to their development and also affect who we try and buy this summer.Whilst i'd agree to a point to trying out gardner and Herd together, with Petrov maybe coming on after 60 minutes, you'd have to be a brave manager to do it, and a mite more popular than Mcleish
Quote from: Dave McLark Five on March 10, 2012, 10:30:55 PMThere is some great promise there. If Herd turns out to be the midfield player that we have been looking for then the future is indeed bright. As I have said before, we are going to give someone a right walloping when things click into place. Then watch them go. The delight the players showed after Weimann scored would not have been greater in a cup final. Stick with them.Indeed. A nine player pile on with only Shay and Warnock not involved. Sure didn't strike me as a bunch of players that don't care.
There is some great promise there. If Herd turns out to be the midfield player that we have been looking for then the future is indeed bright. As I have said before, we are going to give someone a right walloping when things click into place. Then watch them go. The delight the players showed after Weimann scored would not have been greater in a cup final. Stick with them.
Understand what you are saying, but wasn't Gareth Bale a pile of crap for about 12 months in the prem, and Sturridge a rarely used sub for Man City, I'm sure there are enough of those examples aswell
Quote from: Dante Lavelli on March 10, 2012, 10:40:22 PMI reckon we've got the points now and should start playing Herd and Gardner as the central two. Ireland ahead of them does loads of running so they'll get support.I'd also be tempted to give Clark some games ahead of Collins too as he could play left sided with Cuellar on the right of centre.An extra 5 games experience could make a big difference to their development and also affect who we try and buy this summer.Couldn't agree more. Bench the deadwood and give the kids a run. Would like to see Lichaj and Stevens get a chance before the end of the season.