Quote from: Risso on January 30, 2012, 10:00:24 PMQuote from: brian green on January 30, 2012, 09:46:52 PMMy son and I were very angry last night. We have both calmed down now. I shall say nothing more about it but one final comment.Suppose that lad they piled into and stood on and squashed and heaved every which way had been an epileptic, or had a heart condition or had recently had major surgery or was a chronic asthmatic or had osteoporosis or any one of a hundred conditions which made him vulnerable to physical violence?They asked no questions, their punishment was instant. Wallop.Then that's completely out of order. I hope you can see that a few of us were just trying to find out a bit more info last night Brian, and weren't siding with the stewards/police.Then he'd be even more stupid for going to a football match, and even more for smoking. ;-)
Quote from: brian green on January 30, 2012, 09:46:52 PMMy son and I were very angry last night. We have both calmed down now. I shall say nothing more about it but one final comment.Suppose that lad they piled into and stood on and squashed and heaved every which way had been an epileptic, or had a heart condition or had recently had major surgery or was a chronic asthmatic or had osteoporosis or any one of a hundred conditions which made him vulnerable to physical violence?They asked no questions, their punishment was instant. Wallop.Then that's completely out of order. I hope you can see that a few of us were just trying to find out a bit more info last night Brian, and weren't siding with the stewards/police.
My son and I were very angry last night. We have both calmed down now. I shall say nothing more about it but one final comment.Suppose that lad they piled into and stood on and squashed and heaved every which way had been an epileptic, or had a heart condition or had recently had major surgery or was a chronic asthmatic or had osteoporosis or any one of a hundred conditions which made him vulnerable to physical violence?They asked no questions, their punishment was instant. Wallop.
Quote from: pbsmith on January 30, 2012, 12:36:32 PMi'm generally sympathetic with the police, but that looks outrageous. there was a headline recently saying public safety was at risk because there are now 6000 less police in the force than last year - but there's always dozens of em about to deal with nonsense like this. Or to stand there pointing video cameras at a load of lads stood watching the game. And as for those orange jacketed, head phone wearing idiots - don't get me started. fair enough the lad shouldn't be smoking but why didn't one steward just tell him to put it outThe force gets paid by the club to lay on coppers for a footy match. So they need to justify the pay in some way otherwise the clubs might decide they don't need as many / them at all.
i'm generally sympathetic with the police, but that looks outrageous. there was a headline recently saying public safety was at risk because there are now 6000 less police in the force than last year - but there's always dozens of em about to deal with nonsense like this. Or to stand there pointing video cameras at a load of lads stood watching the game. And as for those orange jacketed, head phone wearing idiots - don't get me started. fair enough the lad shouldn't be smoking but why didn't one steward just tell him to put it out
Quote from: Somniloquism on January 30, 2012, 12:39:33 PMQuote from: pbsmith on January 30, 2012, 12:36:32 PMi'm generally sympathetic with the police, but that looks outrageous. there was a headline recently saying public safety was at risk because there are now 6000 less police in the force than last year - but there's always dozens of em about to deal with nonsense like this. Or to stand there pointing video cameras at a load of lads stood watching the game. And as for those orange jacketed, head phone wearing idiots - don't get me started. fair enough the lad shouldn't be smoking but why didn't one steward just tell him to put it outThe force gets paid by the club to lay on coppers for a footy match. So they need to justify the pay in some way otherwise the clubs might decide they don't need as many / them at all.It's the police that decide on the policing and numbers of police needed. They then in turn charge the clubs. The clubs have no say so whatsoever.
The only place I've ever seen people flouting the smoking ban is at football matches. It's like people thnk it's ok because of the circumstances.