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Author Topic: Trying to accommodate both Bent & Gabby (& Keane?) at the expense of creativity  (Read 10475 times)

Offline garyshawsknee

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Id play a midfield diamond,with Clark at the bottom,Ireland at the top,with Stan on the right,Nzogbia on the left,a narrow midfield. To get the best out the forwards they need to be more advanced,especially Gab.

The problem is though we need decent attacking full backs,which we don't have.

Offline ROBBO

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Both the full backs try to attack but they're not very good at it.

Offline Concrete John

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That leaves out Albrighton, who up until Everton was our 2nd best player on form behind Ireland.  The diamond worked for us against Wigan, but Petrov played at the bottom and I think that's the only place he fits in that formation.  I'd also have doubts about N'Zogbia having the discipline for it.

Should we try it, I'd go with your team and replace Petrov and N'Zog with Super Marc and Bannan.  Or maybe Gardner the Younger?

Offline garyshawsknee

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Yeah,Gardners not a bad idea. I get a feeling that Wee Barry won't get enough game time and will fall further down the pecking order.

I really wish we'd invest in some top draw full backs,as they're really important in how teams attack nowadays.

Offline pedro25

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Just because we may go 442 does not mean we are playing two wingers, Bremner, Houghton etc were not wingers but played predominantly wide midfield.  Just because Ireland starts from the left doesn't mean he is playing as a left winger, he can cut in from that flank and help dictate play and whilst Gabby starts up front he naturally peels over to the left quite a lot during any game, so I think that's a combination that could work with neither of them necessarilly playing out of position on the wing, but both rotating between wide roles and supporting Bent during the game.  It also means the central two have more cover in the form of Ireland thank if we were playing two touchline hugging wingers.  Bent, Gabby, N'Zogbia and Ireland playing to the height of their abilities should be trouble for any defence and in Bannan, Albrighton, Keane and Gardner we have some very good players waiting to force their way into the team.



Offline Dave

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That leaves out Albrighton, who up until Everton was our 2nd best player on form behind Ireland.  The diamond worked for us against Wigan, but Petrov played at the bottom and I think that's the only place he fits in that formation.  I'd also have doubts about N'Zogbia having the discipline for it.

Should we try it, I'd go with your team and replace Petrov and N'Zog with Super Marc and Bannan
That would see our front six consist of two strikers, two trequartistas one winger and one central defender, while offering no protection for two of the most temperamental full-backs in the league.

It would be tactically suicidal.

Offline Merv

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We've seen our best formation a few times already. It's two central midfield players - currently Petrov and Clark - with three players ahead of them; pick two from Albrighton, N'Zog and Gabby for the wide roles, and one (currently Ireland) in the middle (Bannan, and also perhaps Keane) compete for that spot. Bent as the central striker.

That's probably our best model. Gabby can play the striker role if Bent is injured/off form.

For certain games, we could even pair Ireland with Clark in central midfield, use Keane just behind Bent.

I'd be looking at introducing Lichaj and Stevens to the full back roles at some point; Herd also a possibility at right-back.

In the summer, we look to phase Petrov out and bring in a new midfielder to play in there.

Offline Salsa Party Animal

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Simple Try this.
-------------------Given,

Cuellar ----Collins, ---- Dunne,

----------Petrov -----Clark
Albrighton ----Ireland -----Keane
-------Agbonlahor---- Bent

Clark can be attacking defender which he can be use to switch 4-1-3-2 or 3-2-3-2 formation when needed. But will Alex be brave enough to try this system.

Offline SheffieldVillain

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Simple Try this.
-------------------Given,

Cuellar ----Collins, ---- Dunne,

----------Petrov -----Clark
Albrighton ----Ireland -----Keane
-------Agbonlahor---- Bent

Clark can be attacking defender which he can be use to switch 4-1-3-2 or 3-2-3-2 formation when needed. But will Alex be brave enough to try this system.


I very much hope not. We'd be ripped to shreds.

Offline hawkeye

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what we have in midfield and attack is options, we have 2 decent goalkeepers. It is the back 4 that is the problem and needs replacing.

Offline SoccerHQ

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I think Gabby will start at Arsenal but he'll be on the bench for the next home game.

Offline Matt Collins

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Simple Try this.
-------------------Given,

Cuellar ----Collins, ---- Dunne,

----------Petrov -----Clark
Albrighton ----Ireland -----Keane
-------Agbonlahor---- Bent

Clark can be attacking defender which he can be use to switch 4-1-3-2 or 3-2-3-2 formation when needed. But will Alex be brave enough to try this system.


I've seen some odd teams and formations on here but this one takes the biscuit!!

 


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