Quote from: rutski on December 17, 2012, 02:36:05 PMQuote from: N'ZMAV on December 17, 2012, 02:27:04 PMI think there's a decent player in there somewhere, he could still do a job at VP, probably not in the current system.we dont need hamster bollocks at our club. he is no longer welcome!Downing is about as far away from the type of player Lambert is looking for as its possible to get.
Quote from: N'ZMAV on December 17, 2012, 02:27:04 PMI think there's a decent player in there somewhere, he could still do a job at VP, probably not in the current system.we dont need hamster bollocks at our club. he is no longer welcome!
I think there's a decent player in there somewhere, he could still do a job at VP, probably not in the current system.
Quote from: David_Nab on December 16, 2012, 11:50:15 PMFelt he was their best player yesterday even out of position at LB Certainly he performed better than Rodgers £15mil midfielder.I honestly reckon that if Downing tried to find an opposition player with his cross he'd be a world class winger.He managed a staggering 13 crosses on Saturday. Only two found a red shirt. All the bullshit about how he used to supply the goals for Bent last season was just that, bullshit.
Felt he was their best player yesterday even out of position at LB Certainly he performed better than Rodgers £15mil midfielder.
Quote from: Rudy Lambert on December 17, 2012, 07:11:26 AMQuote from: David_Nab on December 16, 2012, 11:50:15 PMFelt he was their best player yesterday even out of position at LB Certainly he performed better than Rodgers £15mil midfielder.I honestly reckon that if Downing tried to find an opposition player with his cross he'd be a world class winger.He managed a staggering 13 crosses on Saturday. Only two found a red shirt. All the bullshit about how he used to supply the goals for Bent last season was just that, bullshit.I disagree completely.We defended excellently and have a goalkeeper who will claim anything that it's near him but he managed to find a man twice, that's not brilliant but not terrible, a similar number of crosses of similar quality would see him get 7-8 assists for the season, which is decent for a premier league winger.That's exactly what he is, a decent mid table premier league winger, the problem is £20m was well over double his value after we'd already massively overpaid.
We defended excellently and have a goalkeeper who will claim anything that it's near him but he managed to find a man twice, that's not brilliant but not terrible, a similar number of crosses of similar quality would see him get 7-8 assists for the season, which is decent for a premier league winger.
Quote from: paul_e on December 17, 2012, 06:44:32 PMWe defended excellently and have a goalkeeper who will claim anything that it's near him but he managed to find a man twice, that's not brilliant but not terrible, a similar number of crosses of similar quality would see him get 7-8 assists for the season, which is decent for a premier league winger.Is it? Last season Premier League clubs scored, on average, about 50 goals over the course of a season. If over the course of that season you create only 15% of your team's goals as one of two main wingers it sounds pretty crap to me.Wasn't there a stat last season that he didn't create a single goal? Who wants a winger who can't create goals? We said it at the time that Man City got the best of Middlesborough's wingers - half a decent season with us (and it was only half, he scored a few goals in the first half and did very little in the second) doesn't change that view.