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Author Topic: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!  (Read 13353 times)

Offline Iago

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2011, 11:10:36 AM »
just read the piece again, then look at the first 9 lines...seems about right to me.
I have read it, it is rubbish.

Offline andyh

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2011, 11:11:13 AM »
just read the piece again, then look at the first 9 lines...seems about right to me.
I have read it, it is rubbish.
fair enough

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2011, 11:16:08 AM »
He's right.

And a right knob.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2011, 11:18:07 AM »
Can't argue with that based on the evidence of the past 18 months or so.

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2011, 11:23:52 AM »
Of course he's bang on the money - the journalist who has ghost written it has been on this site and just copied and pasted much of what can be found here day-after-day.

We're a club that, at best, can be described as being in limbo.  It might not be particularly well-written, but that's the message the article is telling those who still harbour illusions we're currently anything other than a club making up the numbers.  Yes, Paul Faulkner, that's you I'm referring to.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2011, 11:29:15 AM »
I always have a look at pre match forums of our opposition prior to the game and the general consensus is that they can't believe how far we've fallen. It makes depressing reading

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2011, 11:35:54 AM »
It is rubbish. Classic cliche ridden rubbish at that, allegedly written by an ex-footballer who was of course renowned for his finesse on the pitch as much as he is now known for his academic insight into all things football.

As for "selling club", I've still not seen a definition of what it means, despite the phrase being frequently bandied about willy nilly.  In my opinion it's just a convenient phrase normally used as a way of intellectualising an insult.

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2011, 11:39:07 AM »
Its not a bad article overall, just let down in a couple of instances.

Firstly he trots out the extremely lazy viewpoint of the fans not liking him because he managed Birmingham City.  He's not the first pundit/journalist to fall into this ridiculous trap, but it makes you wonder whether he actually knows of Mcleish's recent managerial record.

Secondly he says we've had a decent start.  He does this without mentioning the very kind run of fixtures, and without mentioning the run of games coming up.

Offline Iago

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2011, 11:53:39 AM »
just read the piece again, then look at the first 9 lines...seems about right to me.
I have read it, it is rubbish.
fair enough
It is embarrassing and so one-sided. Did Downing and Young want to leave? It takes many determining factors in a transfer, but no it is only the club's philosophy according to Lawrenson. 

And ML is basically saying, as supporters we must accept AM's playing style because the owner is selling players who WANT to leave the club. Sorry Mark, but I, and others supporters, are allowed to have different opinions on OUR clubs. I guess the players and management can do no wrong in any situation. Completely laughable and comes across as extremely ignorant.

 
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Look at the club's philosophy and budget, and at what
McLeish has to work with.
What does he have to work with? He had two attacking wingers on the bench? A player AM replaced for Downing, and a young exciting prospect. It makes no sense and Lawrenson knows it, look at his following sentence.

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Maybe he regrets not being more adventurous at Spurs.
Yes, I am sure he regrets setting the team up in this style, even though that style has been synonymous with AM for years.

I can understand why some fans are believing this crap, the club has a depressing aura at the moment and it is easy to eat this shit. But guys we are better than Monday's performance.

 

Offline barrysleftfoot

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2011, 12:16:43 PM »



   Its a lazy article.Not quality players?  You could argue that a strike force of Gabby, Bent and N'Zogbia is as good as we are going to get, probably the best since Little, Gray and Deehan.Add to that players like Bannan and Herd and Jenas and we have a good team in there.We lost as we did on Monday because ot the manager.The team he put out, the message to the players everything about Monday was appauling.

  I don't mind losing, but at least have a go.

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2011, 12:28:53 PM »
"They are a selling club now and selling clubs don't reach the top four."

Offline Compass

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2011, 12:33:21 PM »
Stopped reading when he called AMC a good manager.

Offline Iago

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2011, 12:44:19 PM »



   Its a lazy article.Not quality players?  You could argue that a strike force of Gabby, Bent and N'Zogbia is as good as we are going to get, probably the best since Little, Gray and Deehan.Add to that players like Bannan and Herd and Jenas and we have a good team in there.We lost as we did on Monday because ot the manager.The team he put out, the message to the players everything about Monday was appauling.

  I don't mind losing, but at least have a go.
I concur.

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2011, 12:46:49 PM »
No wonder you're so one eyed Compass if you refuse to read any opinion that does't agree with your own.

Opinion being the key word.

Offline Compass

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Re: Alternative view from Lawrenson? - no, not really!
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2011, 01:04:42 PM »
No wonder you're so one eyed Compass if you refuse to read any opinion that does't agree with your own.

Opinion being the key word.

He isn't a good manager. It's a well known fact. If he was a good manager he wouldn't have 2 Premier relegations and finished Rangers 3rd in a 2 horse race. It's like calling SAF a bad manager when he really isn't.

And I think it's kind of funny you continue to pick out my posts when you post the most controversy opinions like defending McLeish's tactics without even watching the Spurs match just to stand out from the crowd.

 


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