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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2011, 10:07:23 AM »
He could let us know what we might do once we got rid of 2 or 3 very very big wages players like Heskey and Bebe. 

He say Alex Ferguson say he made right choice for manager. Is Alex McLeish right choice or not for us.

Its's the right choice for Fergie by the look of it


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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2011, 10:35:39 AM »
Not much to get excited about, we really needed to hear some setting out of his vision for the club, some positivity about the future, not how Randy had his tummy tickled by Fergie. I don't think any of the recent criticism has been answered by that interview.

Hey, ho.

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2011, 10:36:07 AM »
It's surprised me that between him Faulkner and 24 possible names in the frame for the vacant manager position, that Big Eck was the man they chose.

In fact it worries me somewhat.


Well it gives us an idea of the criteria they were looking for I reckon.

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2011, 10:47:34 AM »
It's surprised me that between him Faulkner and 24 possible names in the frame for the vacant manager position, that Big Eck was the man they chose.

In fact it worries me somewhat.


Well it gives us an idea of the criteria they were looking for I reckon.

I'd hate to see who was at the bottom of the list

*shudder*

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2011, 11:09:48 AM »
Just noticed my brother sitting to the right of the 2nd picture a couple of rows in front of Randy, fortunately he is out of focus.
For me, this does make me feel better about our manager for two good reasons. First, it seems reasonable to believe Randy when he says he picked McC because of his character and qualities as a person, fair enough. Secondly, Sralex knows him well and knows the management game as well as anybody on this planet. His opinion has to be of value and he has never shown any animosity towards our club.
I was disappointed with his appointment, but less so than with Gerard's and would have hated Rafa. This is probably because I also rate character above some of the other qualities we usually judge by.

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2011, 11:26:38 AM »
In the interview, he comes across as a chairman with the best of intentions, but someone who doesn't quite know what he is doing. Yes, I'm sure that McLeish is more likeable than many managers, but like it or not, at the end the manager is judged on results. I'm not saying that McLeish has failed or will fail in that respect, but his record of delievering results have been mixed in the past, and surely that should have been just as important as his 'character'.

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2011, 11:46:38 AM »
It was nice of him to come out and finally say something but, if considering 24 managers they came to the conclusion that Alex McLeish was going to be the guy that pushed us forward then they really are not that good at football knowledge.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2011, 12:07:54 PM by kippaxvilla2 »

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2011, 12:32:20 PM »
It seems pretty clear they don't know much about football but that interview is about as good as you're going to get.  He's hardly going to set out his detailed business model or strategy for success.  How many other businesses publish that info for all their competitors to see?

Is there no way we can prize Sir Graham away from his punditry duties?  If the Board are as clueless about footy as they appear to be they couldn't do much better than getting Sir Graham in as an advisor.

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2011, 01:25:45 PM »
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Villa chairman Randy Lerner spoke to Brian Doogan, the club's head of media, at our home game against Norwich and again this week for an exclusive www.avfc.co.uk interview.

The entrance, as always, is low-key but the depth of feeling never diminishes. Randy Lerner arrives at Villa Park with an easy smile as he and Paul Faulkner stride in tandem towards the home dressing room. Along the corridor, the images on the wall portray proud men from the turn of the 20th century congregated around the Football League trophy, more familiar faces displaying the European Cup and also League Cup-winning teams. With the players warming up on the pitch, he joins Alex McLeish inside the dressing room and, along with the chief executive, they discuss the game.

It will turn out to be open and compelling. Norwich take the lead from an Anthony Pilkington free kick before Darren Bent and Gabby Agbonlahor combine to deadly effect in front of the visitors' goal, Bent scoring twice (set up twice by Agbonlahor) and the academy graduate and Holte End favourite scoring, too. Approaching the stadium, the chairman explained to a group of supporters by the players' entrance that his eldest son is attending a new school in the American Midwest and he has therefore not been able to travel to games as frequently as in previous seasons. Perhaps his enjoyment of the game is heightened by this reality. Certainly, his sense of relief and excitement while sat in the stands with family and friends is palpable. "How did I feel? Terrified," he says, half-jokingly. "I didn't want to bring bad luck and, obviously, I'm thrilled that we played well today. As a former player and a manager, Alex understands my situation, I know, as do many in this game. But part of my job is to be visible - even while remaining, some might suggest, quiet to silent! - and I've not done that well enough. I know that to some extent and I've been at this long enough for people to know that I'm committed and yet at the same time, given the craziness we've faced over the last 18 months, I should have done more. Certainly I could have been more communicative.

"I get it and I understand but my focus is on the nuts and bolts of operating the club and in reality this takes place in the week. Most of my visits in the last two, three years have been digging in with senior management and figuring out how to think through decisions.

"This is part of the deeper, personal philosophy which is to make sure the hidden parts are built well. I understand this does not get the same applause and it's easy to say 'Yes, the enthusiasm is there,' but the criteria have shifted from year one to year five, six, seven and examples of enthusiasm may be less conspicuous."

The past 18 months have been tumultuous for Villa fans and also for the Villa board. The Villa chairman and his chief executive have had to deal with losing two managers and their staffs. Neither exit had been anticipated and on both occasions they were tested. Towards the end of 2010 the Villa squad was in flux. The club and Manchester City had gone through a protracted back and forth dealing over whether James Milner would leave in the summer transfer window and heading into the January window they both felt an almost desperate need for change. For points, too.

"We knew the style of play was changing under the new manager [Gerard Houllier] and that he hadn't really had time to shape the dressing room as he was following Kevin [MacDonald, caretaker manager as the 2010-11 season began], who also had to operate under barely reasonable circumstances," the chairman acknowledges. "What's more, I had been very hard on our guys on the business side regarding our wage bill to revenue level and under those circumstances what Paul and Robin [Russell, Villa's chief financial officer] pulled off in January was particularly impressive. Who knows how Darren would have been valued had Paul waited until later in the window to get his transfer from Sunderland done?"

Bent's nine goals over the second half of the season would prove critical and, with very strong performances in the last two games of the season in particular, Villa were able to finish ninth in the Barclays Premier League.

"But just as it seemed time, finally, to take a deep breath and regroup a little, we needed to focus hard on the totally unforeseen reality that we would be back out looking for another manager, as well as facing the regrettable - and yet, to be fair, expected - departure of Ashley Young to Manchester United and the much less anticipated move to Liverpool of Stewart Downing," the chairman elaborates. "That was a difficult and uncomfortable period. Paul and I felt that, above all, the club needed stability. We needed a manager who would understand Villa and could bring credibility and experience to the dressing room and had chemistry with us and trust in our approach. We researched and debated and discussed probably two dozen odd managers from all over until we came to feel that, despite Alex's last post, he met the criteria. Not only is he affable and optimistic, well-liked and certainly well-respected among peers and players alike, but he fit our plan. He fit our feeling that a modern manager needs to balance the hysterical urgency to win and win quickly with the equally crucial need to not squander the work of our academy."

Did the reaction of some supporters make him question this decision at any stage? "It certainly raised the stakes but, if we are right in terms of the fundamentals, then over time Alex will do as he's always done and that is make Villa better," he insists. "What Paul and I knew was that he had the right ingredients. With some good luck, and his trademark hard work and commitment, we felt our chances would be good. We felt his strengths simply outweighed any concerns. When you spend time with Alex, a lot of the sensitivities go away very quickly. Time with Alex is not only engaging, it is compelling. He's pure football. That, in the end, is what you want.

"Sir Alex Ferguson wrote to me after the appointment, a proper letter, talking about his feelings about Alex. It was something you don't easily forget and it's now in a safe deposit box. Given what Sir Alex Ferguson means to the game of football, I don't think you could get many things that you would be more proud of, or reflect better on Alex McLeish."

The manager has led Villa to a sound and solid start to the season and, for the chairman, the way ahead is to build on the strong foundations that are in place. "Sometimes I think you need to do less and allow the pieces you've put in place to settle in and gel. You know, I'm not always sure of what's next but I'd love to come up with a plan for the North Stand and yet I'd also like to strengthen the squad. Our goal, originally, was to invest across three areas: the ground, the squad and Bodymoor Heath. We felt that if that were done carefully we could grow Villa in terms of sustainable revenue and that would give us some flexibility moving forward. I think Alex feels that we have some promising young players coming through and yet we also know that on this level there is no substitute for experience. Taken together, I'd say that we are focused on running Villa well and fighting to be in position, ultimately, to get back into Europe. If we can get that to happen, I'd expect that more will follow."

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2011, 01:47:00 PM »
A good interview I think. Only time will tell if he's right about AM. And let's face it like every other manager in these times, only winning the FA Cup will bestow immortality on him. Sadly for some on here he didn't say 'I've found oil under Bodymoor Heath so expect us to outspend City next year '

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2011, 06:32:44 PM »
Is it just me who finds the reference to Ferguson absolutely nauseating?

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2011, 06:36:41 PM »
Is it just me who finds the reference to Ferguson absolutely nauseating?

It's just further evidence he realises he doesn't know much about football.  He's almost justifying his decision by saying, 'look, Fergie knows more about footy than I ever will, and he says it was a good appointment, so it must be a good appointment'.

Plus, he's a fan of English football and like it or not, Fergie is a legend when it comes to English football.  I think most fans would be quite chuffed if they'd had a letter from him.

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2011, 06:48:17 PM »
Or maybe he's saying "Our manager is highly respected by his former manager."

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2011, 06:52:21 PM »
I wonder if Ellis still has the quote from Ferguson about Robbie Keane in a safe somewhere.

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Re: Randy Lerner exclusive on the OS
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2011, 07:11:52 PM »
In the interview, he comes across as a chairman with the best of intentions, but someone who doesn't quite know what he is doing. Yes, I'm sure that McLeish is more likeable than many managers, but like it or not, at the end the manager is judged on results. I'm not saying that McLeish has failed or will fail in that respect, but his record of delievering results have been mixed in the past, and surely that should have been just as important as his 'character'.

Spot on.

A Hughes or a Benitez might have been more 'distant,'  not as willing to chat and engage with Faulkner and RL when it came to football matters, but you get the best possible candidate for the job.  Not someone who massages your ego and tells you what you want to hear.

Benitez wasn't a runner once he was told the transfer budget. Hughes apparently put the kybosh on his chances by insisting on a release clause if one of the Sky 4 lot came in.

In times gone by, the mere suggestion of such a clause would be an insult to a club of our size, but you can look at it two ways.  1: He's out for himself and would drop us like a stone if a better gig came up.   Or 2: He must have a degree of faith in his ability to even request such a stipulation. Maybe a misplaced faith.

Personally, such a clause wouldn't have automatically put me off.  To invoke it, he'd likely needed to have overseen a degree of success at VP, a cup run (a cup win, even)  or a challenge for top 5/6 despite bigger spending by all the other sides directly around us.

If he had managed any of that- and left us in a better state than he found us-  he'd go with my blessing.

 


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