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Author Topic: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?  (Read 73393 times)

Offline VancouverLion

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2011, 07:08:33 AM »
We are a club with no leadership from top to bottom, it's a disgrace. We need RL to rally us all & give us belief.
Without that we're f***ed.

Offline Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2011, 07:21:47 AM »
You dont need your owners at the game, you just need their money.
How many games has the Man City guy been to ?

Offline TopDeck113

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2011, 07:54:14 AM »
You dont need your owners at the game, you just need their money.
How many games has the Man City guy been to ?

Another sad indictment of football in 2011 neatly encapsulated in two sentences.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2011, 08:45:22 AM »
You dont need your owners at the game, you just need their money.
How many games has the Man City guy been to ?

Another sad indictment of football in 2011 neatly encapsulated in two sentences.

An appalling state of affairs. i am still hoping that the bubble bursts and we get some sort of a fair league.

Offline Arsey

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2011, 10:59:32 AM »
He appointed McLeish, why would he want to come to the games anymore.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2011, 05:40:30 PM »
I think his letter to ST holders explained pretty clearly that the only thing he's interested in is being in the top 20 revenue earners in the Deloitte list. He's no longer interested in the team or success on the pitch - hence the appointment of McLeish, and why he and the General have disappeared from view

I was never a fan of Doug but at least he attended the games - home and away
« Last Edit: October 30, 2011, 05:42:03 PM by CJ »

Offline Macho Man Randy Savage

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2011, 07:26:00 PM »
I wouldn't want to see them go. It would be nice if they attended a few games this season though.

Offline Nigel Macdougall

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2011, 09:06:18 AM »
"Pelty" also seems to have vanished too ?

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2011, 09:26:16 AM »
yeah he can go if he sells the club to people in the same ilk as the owners at chelsea and man city.  otherwise whats the point?? new owners at liverpool pump in £100m + and still cannot touch the manchester clubs (or chelsea) and on yesterdays efforts spurs either.
so unless they got £500m to invest which should get you CL football....whats the point? because nothing will change without that level of investment.
sadly thats fact.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2011, 09:59:31 AM »
yeah he can go if he sells the club to people in the same ilk as the owners at chelsea and man city.  otherwise whats the point?? new owners at liverpool pump in £100m + and still cannot touch the manchester clubs (or chelsea) and on yesterdays efforts spurs either.
so unless they got £500m to invest which should get you CL football....whats the point? because nothing will change without that level of investment.
sadly thats fact.


Modern football encapsulated in a couple of sentences (cont).

Offline Mr Troll

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2011, 01:57:18 PM »
Lerner is a berk. He is out of his depth and he has seen to it that the exciting and solid team O'neill built was destroyed to make a profit. He has now installed a manager with all the charisma of a tea cup and the football brain of a potato !

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2011, 02:00:44 PM »
Lerner is a berk. He is out of his depth and he has seen to it that the exciting and solid team O'neill built was destroyed to make a profit. He has now installed a manager with all the charisma of a tea cup and the football brain of a potato !

I think you're confusing Lerner with Nial Quinn pal

Offline Apyadg

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2011, 02:02:58 PM »
Lerner is a berk. He is out of his depth and he has seen to it that the exciting and solid team O'neill built was destroyed to make a profit.

How much of a profit has he made?

And considering all of the players that left (that were worth keeping), wanted to go, what was he emant to do, force them to stay?

There are a few things to be annoyed about when it comes to Lerner, but he's hardly asset stripping the club.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2011, 02:08:10 PM »
Lerner is a berk. He is out of his depth and he has seen to it that the exciting and solid team O'neill built was destroyed to make a profit.

How much of a profit has he made?

And considering all of the players that left (that were worth keeping), wanted to go, what was he emant to do, force them to stay?

There are a few things to be annoyed about when it comes to Lerner, but he's hardly asset stripping the club.

Correct.

What he's done/trying to do is get us to operate within our means.  I think his initial investment was intended to secure a top 4 place and therefore mean we could operate 'within our means' at a level like he subsidised for the first 3-4 years of his tenure, but that didn't happen.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2011, 02:13:21 PM »

What he's done/trying to do is get us to operate within our means.  I think his initial investment was intended to secure a top 4 place and therefore mean we could operate 'within our means' at a level like he subsidised for the first 3-4 years of his tenure, but that didn't happen.

He is, but not as a result of a cleverly thought out strategy, but instead as an emergency measure to try and undo the damage of completely losing control of finances.  It's not like he'd have sanctioned Beye's contract thinking, "well, if we don't get top 4 I'll cut back a bit next year".  Basically he let O'Neill spend more or less what he liked and now we're paying for it.

 


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