1% Villa, Steve McClaren resigns from Notts Forest

[picicata]

Stuart Pearce says he isn't yet ready for the England job, so this could be just the preparation he needs.

Stuart Pearce isn't ready for the U21 job!

[kippaxvilla2]

Even if he hasn't been backed he's still done a spectacularly poor job for a team that has been in the play offs two years in a row. He's a bit crap, so glad we weren't bounced into appointing him.

Since when did he become crap?  Since he won the treble with Manure in their most successful period? Since he had the England job? Since he lead Boro (a shit team) to the League Cup?  Since he lead them to a UEFA Final?  Since he won the Dutch League?  We haven't been in too many League Cup Final's/UEFA Finals in recent years.

[taylorsworkrate]

McClaren's club record is pretty decent, good even.

He's just too much of a clownlike figure to be taken seriously.  All his own fault though, no one made him pretend to be Dutch.

[KRS]

from what I have heard he has been let down badly by the Forest board who promised him cash and didn't deliver.  That said, Billy 'Arm Up' Davis did get the same bunch of players to the play offs.

Its hard to point the finger of blame at the board when the previous manager was capable of getting more out of the players and more points in the bag.

As soon as I saw MON last week covering one of the CL games, I thought its only a small matter of time until he resurfaces at another club soon, but Pearce would be a good shout for the Forest job given the circumstances.

[LeeB]

Even if he hasn't been backed he's still done a spectacularly poor job for a team that has been in the play offs two years in a row. He's a bit crap, so glad we weren't bounced into appointing him.

Since when did he become crap?  Since he won the treble with Manure in their most successful period? Since he had the England job? Since he lead Boro (a shit team) to the League Cup?  Since he lead them to a UEFA Final?  Since he won the Dutch League?  We haven't been in too many League Cup Final's/UEFA Finals in recent years.

He didn't lead Man Utd to the treble, that Boro side was crap mostly because of the crap players he'd paid fortunes for, he won the Dutch League yes, but then has died on his arse within a couple of months at both Wolfsburg and Forest, and was a fucking joke as England manager, JT this and Stevie G that.

He's one of the luckiest men alive, a smarmy lickspittle with his cheese-eating grin and a weetabix head.

[NeilH]

I have a bit of a theory about this. Most of the kids here are coached from a very early age, by the time they reach the Eredivisie they are light years away from most of the young players in England, especially when it comes to technical skills and motivation. Anyone with good coaching skills would be a great success as they could simply focus on how to organise a team to win. There is no real old style managerial requirement as most of the players come through the youth system and are then flogged at the moment they reach a level where they get noticed.
In the case of McClaren, he picked up a Twente side who were already well advanced through a good youth system and had played together for years. His coaching skills were the final piece in the jigsaw. The Twente fans hold him in huge stead as he was able to lift a provincial team to a league title.
Where he came cropper was the move to Wolfsburg. At Wolfsburg he was required to be a manager once more for a team with a huge expectation, his lack of language and his inability to be anything other than a coach led him to die on his arse..... At Forest it is the same deal.
As much as I had been a champion of him as a possible Villa manager, his failure at Forest and Wolfsburg indicates to me that he’s nothing better than a coach and in among the politics of our club, it could have been a disaster.

[eastie]

Doubt whether mon would be tempted back there with the finances as such , i think roy keane would be ideal for the role but it seems the hot favourite is the milton keynes boss.

[5ft811st2 Durham]

Even if he hasn't been backed he's still done a spectacularly poor job for a team that has been in the play offs two years in a row. He's a bit crap, so glad we weren't bounced into appointing him.

Since when did he become crap?  Since he won the treble with Manure in their most successful period? Since he had the England job? Since he lead Boro (a shit team) to the League Cup?  Since he lead them to a UEFA Final?  Since he won the Dutch League?  We haven't been in too many League Cup Final's/UEFA Finals in recent years.

Are you related to Pat Murphy?

[Vanilla]

Even if he hasn't been backed he's still done a spectacularly poor job for a team that has been in the play offs two years in a row. He's a bit crap, so glad we weren't bounced into appointing him.

Since when did he become crap?  Since he won the treble with Manure in their most successful period? Since he had the England job? Since he lead Boro (a shit team) to the League Cup?  Since he lead them to a UEFA Final?  Since he won the Dutch League?  We haven't been in too many League Cup Final's/UEFA Finals in recent years.

Agree with you. We seem to be one of the few countries that condemns a manager for life once they have managed the national team. Only Bobby Robson was able to break this mould from all of those managers from the last 20 odd years. Yet even when this great man came back to coach in England, he was treated shabbily by Newcastle.

McClaren did a poor job at Forest, but was obviously sold the job on false pretences. He wanted to rebuild the team, but was unable to buy any players.

[Matt C]

Curbs for Forest I reckon.

[Chris Smith]

Even if he hasn't been backed he's still done a spectacularly poor job for a team that has been in the play offs two years in a row. He's a bit crap, so glad we weren't bounced into appointing him.

Since when did he become crap?  Since he won the treble with Manure in their most successful period? Since he had the England job? Since he lead Boro (a shit team) to the League Cup?  Since he lead them to a UEFA Final?  Since he won the Dutch League?  We haven't been in too many League Cup Final's/UEFA Finals in recent years.

Since he got sacked from his last two jobs after a crap spell at England. In the last five or six years his one good season in the Dutch league is looking like a bit of a fluke.

He finally hit an all time low yesterday.

[5ft811st2 Durham]

Even if he hasn't been backed he's still done a spectacularly poor job for a team that has been in the play offs two years in a row. He's a bit crap, so glad we weren't bounced into appointing him.

Since when did he become crap?  Since he won the treble with Manure in their most successful period? Since he had the England job? Since he lead Boro (a shit team) to the League Cup?  Since he lead them to a UEFA Final?  Since he won the Dutch League?  We haven't been in too many League Cup Final's/UEFA Finals in recent years.

Agree with you. We seem to be one of the few countries that condemns a manager for life once they have managed the national team. Only Bobby Robson was able to break this mould from all of those managers from the last 20 odd years. Yet even when this great man came back to coach in England, he was treated shabbily by Newcastle.

McClaren did a poor job at Forest, but was obviously sold the job on false pretences. He wanted to rebuild the team, but was unable to buy any players.

So why didn't he concentrate on using his alleged coaching abilities to get the best out players at his disposal in order to attain a respectable league position and demonstate to the sceptics that he is after all a  reasonable manager?


The truth is that Mclaren is utterly clueless as both coach and manager. He knew where things were headed at Forest due to his incompetence and ran away like a coward in order to protect the reputation that exists only in his own mind and that of his dwindling band of media disciples, or in other words Pat Murphy.

[Vanilla]

Even if he hasn't been backed he's still done a spectacularly poor job for a team that has been in the play offs two years in a row. He's a bit crap, so glad we weren't bounced into appointing him.

Since when did he become crap?  Since he won the treble with Manure in their most successful period? Since he had the England job? Since he lead Boro (a shit team) to the League Cup?  Since he lead them to a UEFA Final?  Since he won the Dutch League?  We haven't been in too many League Cup Final's/UEFA Finals in recent years.

Agree with you. We seem to be one of the few countries that condemns a manager for life once they have managed the national team. Only Bobby Robson was able to break this mould from all of those managers from the last 20 odd years. Yet even when this great man came back to coach in England, he was treated shabbily by Newcastle.

McClaren did a poor job at Forest, but was obviously sold the job on false pretences. He wanted to rebuild the team, but was unable to buy any players.

So why didn't he concentrate on using his alleged coaching abilities to get the best out players at his disposal in order to attain a respectable league position and demonstate to the sceptics that he is after all a  reasonable manager?


The truth is that Mclaren is utterly clueless as both coach and manager. He knew where things were headed at Forest due to his incompetence and ran away like a coward in order to protect the reputation that exists only in his own mind and that of his dwindling band of media disciples, or in other words Pat Murphy.

You could apply your first sentence to virtually any manager, including the current Villa one. I think he was looking for a Premier League team, but accepted the Forest job so he could make the team his own and take them, which would have taken a few years. Why do that if in a few years you are still dabbling with loan and free signings.

[VillaAlways]

KMac to Forest ?

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Ex-Aston-Villa-boss-Kevin-MacDonald-is-shock-target-for-Nottingham-Forest-article807878.html

[darren woolley]

I hope we don't lose KMac we need to keep him.