Quote from: Compass on September 21, 2011, 01:29:04 PMI trust Ireland's football ability more than the board's ability to find the right manager that's how terrible they are.I know what you mean. If Mcleish was sacked tomorrow the sense of dread at who they might choose to replace him would be unbearable.
I trust Ireland's football ability more than the board's ability to find the right manager that's how terrible they are.
Quote from: Villafirst on September 21, 2011, 01:44:24 PMQuote from: NeilH on September 21, 2011, 12:03:32 PMI think undoubtedly Randy has to stay and rumours of him totally losing interest in Villa are, I suspect, very wide of the mark. He’s clearly a realistic who has assessed the way football is heading and decided that the best long term policy is to reign in and maintain equilibrium. Herein to me lies the root of the problem. I suspect that the actions of the club are valid and business savvy, however, the PR at Villa is nothing short of shocking. When Randy first took over, there was a palpable sense that the club valued the fans and many things were done to make us feel that the club truly valued us. However, ever since the departure of MON, the club has been stepping backwards at a frightening pace, leaving fans bewildered and the press seeing an easy target for the tedious ‘Villa in crisis’ banner. They have got to address this sharpish and give us the fans a clear picture of the actions we are taking so that we get a sense of why we are doing what we are doing and what the long term goal is.RL has to stay? He and his joke side-kick The General have lurched from one crisis to another since August 2010. They haven't a clue and have made a series of disastrous decisions over the last year or so. You need Football men on the Board and these two haven't any idea whatsoever. I can't believe that people on here still support a part-time regime that's rapidly sending us down to the Championship - WAKE UP!!And who do you propose should takeover? Perhaps we ought to give Doug a call back and say all is forgiven, or perhaps give Bill Gates a tinkle and ask him if he fancies taking on a middling Premier League club who’s fans have the patience of a six year old with a bag of sweets and are prone to turn on him the moment he chooses not to spunk another 10M away on a fruitless exercise.
Quote from: NeilH on September 21, 2011, 12:03:32 PMI think undoubtedly Randy has to stay and rumours of him totally losing interest in Villa are, I suspect, very wide of the mark. He’s clearly a realistic who has assessed the way football is heading and decided that the best long term policy is to reign in and maintain equilibrium. Herein to me lies the root of the problem. I suspect that the actions of the club are valid and business savvy, however, the PR at Villa is nothing short of shocking. When Randy first took over, there was a palpable sense that the club valued the fans and many things were done to make us feel that the club truly valued us. However, ever since the departure of MON, the club has been stepping backwards at a frightening pace, leaving fans bewildered and the press seeing an easy target for the tedious ‘Villa in crisis’ banner. They have got to address this sharpish and give us the fans a clear picture of the actions we are taking so that we get a sense of why we are doing what we are doing and what the long term goal is.RL has to stay? He and his joke side-kick The General have lurched from one crisis to another since August 2010. They haven't a clue and have made a series of disastrous decisions over the last year or so. You need Football men on the Board and these two haven't any idea whatsoever. I can't believe that people on here still support a part-time regime that's rapidly sending us down to the Championship - WAKE UP!!
I think undoubtedly Randy has to stay and rumours of him totally losing interest in Villa are, I suspect, very wide of the mark. He’s clearly a realistic who has assessed the way football is heading and decided that the best long term policy is to reign in and maintain equilibrium. Herein to me lies the root of the problem. I suspect that the actions of the club are valid and business savvy, however, the PR at Villa is nothing short of shocking. When Randy first took over, there was a palpable sense that the club valued the fans and many things were done to make us feel that the club truly valued us. However, ever since the departure of MON, the club has been stepping backwards at a frightening pace, leaving fans bewildered and the press seeing an easy target for the tedious ‘Villa in crisis’ banner. They have got to address this sharpish and give us the fans a clear picture of the actions we are taking so that we get a sense of why we are doing what we are doing and what the long term goal is.
Quote from: NeilH on September 21, 2011, 02:06:06 PMQuote from: Villafirst on September 21, 2011, 01:44:24 PMQuote from: NeilH on September 21, 2011, 12:03:32 PMI think undoubtedly Randy has to stay and rumours of him totally losing interest in Villa are, I suspect, very wide of the mark. He’s clearly a realistic who has assessed the way football is heading and decided that the best long term policy is to reign in and maintain equilibrium. Herein to me lies the root of the problem. I suspect that the actions of the club are valid and business savvy, however, the PR at Villa is nothing short of shocking. When Randy first took over, there was a palpable sense that the club valued the fans and many things were done to make us feel that the club truly valued us. However, ever since the departure of MON, the club has been stepping backwards at a frightening pace, leaving fans bewildered and the press seeing an easy target for the tedious ‘Villa in crisis’ banner. They have got to address this sharpish and give us the fans a clear picture of the actions we are taking so that we get a sense of why we are doing what we are doing and what the long term goal is.RL has to stay? He and his joke side-kick The General have lurched from one crisis to another since August 2010. They haven't a clue and have made a series of disastrous decisions over the last year or so. You need Football men on the Board and these two haven't any idea whatsoever. I can't believe that people on here still support a part-time regime that's rapidly sending us down to the Championship - WAKE UP!!And who do you propose should takeover? Perhaps we ought to give Doug a call back and say all is forgiven, or perhaps give Bill Gates a tinkle and ask him if he fancies taking on a middling Premier League club who’s fans have the patience of a six year old with a bag of sweets and are prone to turn on him the moment he chooses not to spunk another 10M away on a fruitless exercise.We've had 12 months of being patient - where's the club heading? DOWN perhaps idiots like you enjoy Championship football
I think they're mentally ill and it's a nightmare they remain charge of our club.
Quote from: Compass on September 21, 2011, 02:09:05 PM I think they're mentally ill and it's a nightmare they remain charge of our club.No over-reaction there at all.
If randy feels he no longer has the resources or desire to take the club onwards to the next level then id like him to say so and look for new investors -he has given it his best shot and got very close but the dream is now over.I thank him for all hes done in the past but if he cannot any longer afford it then come clean and leave with his head held high- and yes i know its not easy to find someone who would want to invest in aston villa but i dont want us to be happy to just stay up and exist.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 21, 2011, 02:23:48 PMQuote from: Compass on September 21, 2011, 02:09:05 PM I think they're mentally ill and it's a nightmare they remain charge of our club.No over-reaction there at all.Really isn't an over reaction. To do this day, it still makes no logical sense why they hired him. Fans protested for so many reasons and it's not just because he was the Small Heath manager. He hasn't got a good Premier League record, he is known for one of the worst football dross (makes Big Sam football look good), he isn't good in the transfer market, he has no Plan A, he isn't even good at relegation battles.The performances we've played under him so far have been truly shocking. You would think seeing as he has got better tools to work with he would improve his tactics from Small Heath, but it's exactly the same. No vision. No passion. No idea. Not only are we not winning enough games, but the draws we've managed to get (don't be fooled, the unbeaten Premier League run is a blessing in disguise) we didn't even deserve. Now we're not even improving. We're going backwards at a extreme rate and the majority of fans think QPR, a newly promoted team who hasn't been in the PL for over a decade will beat us easily and they're right. We have no idea what we're doing on the pitch.The worst part is the protests were there as a warning. Due to the board's arrogance, they thought they knew best when it's clear they don't. Now seats are affected and I can see it getting worse as time goes by if the performance doesn't improve soon, which it won't because this is all McLeish knows.Surely you must understand these concerns? I mean what positives could you take yesterday from last night match? We had our first shot on target at home against Bolton reserves nearly the 90th min? What else. Why is McLeish a good manager for us? How can you be saracstic and think it's an over reaction? It seems McLeish could be immune from a sacking (the board won't have the guts to admit they were wrong) and this could finish us a Premier League club.
it still makes no logical sense why they hired him.
Quote from: eastie on September 21, 2011, 03:05:59 PMIf randy feels he no longer has the resources or desire to take the club onwards to the next level then id like him to say so and look for new investors -he has given it his best shot and got very close but the dream is now over.I thank him for all hes done in the past but if he cannot any longer afford it then come clean and leave with his head held high- and yes i know its not easy to find someone who would want to invest in aston villa but i dont want us to be happy to just stay up and exist.And what are you reckoning to Mcleish, Eastie - you were the one guy who was actually happy with the appointment from what I can remember.
Quote from: Compass on September 21, 2011, 02:56:17 PMit still makes no logical sense why they hired him. Makes perfect sense. Think about the new strategy/policy in place - a manager who would accept certain limitations was the aim. That's why McLeish isn't going anywhere for a while. Results on the pitch are only part of his job description.
I'll be interested to see the reaction after we beat QPR 4-0.
Results on the pitch are only part of his job description