How was Houllier a disaster?Well taking a side who'd finished 6th the previous season with the club's best ever points haul from a 38 game season into a relegation battle which lasted until May is my main gripe.His ability to fall out with a number of players, the Anfield love in, the FA Cup surrender.Turning up and telling us (O'Leary esque) that we were a mid table side despite three successive 6th place finishes.Fair enough there were some good results, but that has to be balanced up by mentioning such non performances as Wolves and Sunderland at home? I wouldn't wish ill health on the man, but i'd be lying if I said i'm sad to see him out of our club.On par with McNeill for me.
Quote from: QBVILLA on September 23, 2011, 06:50:04 AMHow was Houllier a disaster?Well taking a side who'd finished 6th the previous season with the club's best ever points haul from a 38 game season into a relegation battle which lasted until May is my main gripe.His ability to fall out with a number of players, the Anfield love in, the FA Cup surrender.Turning up and telling us (O'Leary esque) that we were a mid table side despite three successive 6th place finishes.Fair enough there were some good results, but that has to be balanced up by mentioning such non performances as Wolves and Sunderland at home? I wouldn't wish ill health on the man, but i'd be lying if I said i'm sad to see him out of our club.On par with McNeill for me.Houllier had massive bade points last year but I'll always look back on it being yet again our missed opportunity with a foreign manager to really progress.
Quote from: jonzy85 on September 22, 2011, 10:35:40 AMQuote from: rob_bridge on September 19, 2011, 09:59:59 PMQuote from: Eigentor on September 19, 2011, 04:51:11 PMQuote from: Irish villain on September 19, 2011, 04:21:04 PMThe more time that passes, the worse his mistakes look.It's called hindsight. A more nuanced view might take into account that he tried to have us playing decent football, that he experienced one of the worst injury crisis in living memory and that several players didn't actually spend the pre-season getting into shape. Some of his ideas were good, but his implementation was poor. But to say that Houllier was crap, or a disaster, is biased and one-sided, to say the least, and there is yet little indication that we are better off without him. (People might like to point to our improved defence, but we conceded 12 goals in the last 10 matches of the Houllier/GMac period, which is not much worse than 4 in 5 matches if you factor in the turgid performances and the quality of the opposition so far this season.)=========================================================Houllier was a walking talking disaster turning a Top 6 club into relegation fodder at one point with his side kick McDuff (very good coach?) where? This is in a season where only Cit-eh and Albyion really improved on the previous season.And before those last 10 games? Conceding 1 at home to Wolves and scoring none. Remember that one? Sending a team out to lose v Cit-eh in the Cup. Is that biased?I will wager with you that we will get more than 49 points this year and not lose as badly in the Cup with that disgraceful approach. Therefore we will be better off with a worse squad. The guy is arrogant beyond belief - he was brought in to qualify for World Cup with France, win the League with Liverpool and consolidate with Villa. Add Abject to the List of adjectives. Failure with a Big FCouldnt agree more Rob Bridge.Claiming that saying Houllier was a disaster in hidsight is b******s! I and many others knew he would be an awful appointment from the get go. It just got worse and worse, like a very slow car crash.I am happier having McLeish (who I am not happy with). At least he has restored some of the qualities we had under MON and belief in a lot of the players. Funny you should mention MON, as Houllier achieved just one less point at Villa Park than MON did in what many refer to as his 'bestest season', despite coming in as a new manager, missing out on the summer transfer windsow, the player fall-outs and injury crisis.As for Ashley Young, he was a loose cannon for us last season, a shadow of the player he'd previously been. Ferguson has brought some discipline to his game and when combined with the 100% effort and talent he has, he's back to being a great player.
Quote from: rob_bridge on September 19, 2011, 09:59:59 PMQuote from: Eigentor on September 19, 2011, 04:51:11 PMQuote from: Irish villain on September 19, 2011, 04:21:04 PMThe more time that passes, the worse his mistakes look.It's called hindsight. A more nuanced view might take into account that he tried to have us playing decent football, that he experienced one of the worst injury crisis in living memory and that several players didn't actually spend the pre-season getting into shape. Some of his ideas were good, but his implementation was poor. But to say that Houllier was crap, or a disaster, is biased and one-sided, to say the least, and there is yet little indication that we are better off without him. (People might like to point to our improved defence, but we conceded 12 goals in the last 10 matches of the Houllier/GMac period, which is not much worse than 4 in 5 matches if you factor in the turgid performances and the quality of the opposition so far this season.)=========================================================Houllier was a walking talking disaster turning a Top 6 club into relegation fodder at one point with his side kick McDuff (very good coach?) where? This is in a season where only Cit-eh and Albyion really improved on the previous season.And before those last 10 games? Conceding 1 at home to Wolves and scoring none. Remember that one? Sending a team out to lose v Cit-eh in the Cup. Is that biased?I will wager with you that we will get more than 49 points this year and not lose as badly in the Cup with that disgraceful approach. Therefore we will be better off with a worse squad. The guy is arrogant beyond belief - he was brought in to qualify for World Cup with France, win the League with Liverpool and consolidate with Villa. Add Abject to the List of adjectives. Failure with a Big FCouldnt agree more Rob Bridge.Claiming that saying Houllier was a disaster in hidsight is b******s! I and many others knew he would be an awful appointment from the get go. It just got worse and worse, like a very slow car crash.I am happier having McLeish (who I am not happy with). At least he has restored some of the qualities we had under MON and belief in a lot of the players.
Quote from: Eigentor on September 19, 2011, 04:51:11 PMQuote from: Irish villain on September 19, 2011, 04:21:04 PMThe more time that passes, the worse his mistakes look.It's called hindsight. A more nuanced view might take into account that he tried to have us playing decent football, that he experienced one of the worst injury crisis in living memory and that several players didn't actually spend the pre-season getting into shape. Some of his ideas were good, but his implementation was poor. But to say that Houllier was crap, or a disaster, is biased and one-sided, to say the least, and there is yet little indication that we are better off without him. (People might like to point to our improved defence, but we conceded 12 goals in the last 10 matches of the Houllier/GMac period, which is not much worse than 4 in 5 matches if you factor in the turgid performances and the quality of the opposition so far this season.)=========================================================Houllier was a walking talking disaster turning a Top 6 club into relegation fodder at one point with his side kick McDuff (very good coach?) where? This is in a season where only Cit-eh and Albyion really improved on the previous season.And before those last 10 games? Conceding 1 at home to Wolves and scoring none. Remember that one? Sending a team out to lose v Cit-eh in the Cup. Is that biased?I will wager with you that we will get more than 49 points this year and not lose as badly in the Cup with that disgraceful approach. Therefore we will be better off with a worse squad. The guy is arrogant beyond belief - he was brought in to qualify for World Cup with France, win the League with Liverpool and consolidate with Villa. Add Abject to the List of adjectives. Failure with a Big F
Quote from: Irish villain on September 19, 2011, 04:21:04 PMThe more time that passes, the worse his mistakes look.It's called hindsight. A more nuanced view might take into account that he tried to have us playing decent football, that he experienced one of the worst injury crisis in living memory and that several players didn't actually spend the pre-season getting into shape. Some of his ideas were good, but his implementation was poor. But to say that Houllier was crap, or a disaster, is biased and one-sided, to say the least, and there is yet little indication that we are better off without him. (People might like to point to our improved defence, but we conceded 12 goals in the last 10 matches of the Houllier/GMac period, which is not much worse than 4 in 5 matches if you factor in the turgid performances and the quality of the opposition so far this season.)
The more time that passes, the worse his mistakes look.
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