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Offline spangley1812

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2011, 05:39:40 PM »
I have always rated him and I have said so before on other threads, he isnt the best player in the world but he will do what he is told.Due to his size he is a easy target for people to moan at him. He may well get a new contract if he accepts a wage reduction
This arguement for Heskey is so lame. Im not the best player in the world, and I'd do as im told in a Villa shirt. Im about the same build as Heskey too. Im shit though, and so is he.
Thats your opinion so thats no problem but if you ask Michael Owen and Wayne Rooney if he is a good player and they will agree with me , but everyone has their own opinion

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2011, 05:42:34 PM »
I want to see Bannan given more involvement but as I've said elsewhere I'm concerned about an Albrighton like dip in form and confidence if too much is asked of him at this stage.

See your point Chris but completely disagree. Now is the time to play Bannan whilst his confidence is sky high. Leave him out for a few games and yes, he's likely to lose that edge but now is the time we should be showing a little bit of faith in him. He's earned it and deserves it.

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2011, 05:57:29 PM »
That's the thing though, I can't remember any recent Rooney quotes but a few years back virtually every top flight player was singing Emile's praises, Shearer, Sheringham, Beckham, Fowler, Owen, Gerrard well, all saying that Emile is one of the best they've ever worked with. I get that feeling it wasn't just because they all looked miles better standing next to him either.

Maybe it's because he's the last of the old guard way of thinking as a player, consumate professional, always does what he's told to do on the pitch, money doesn't go to his head, not pictured spilling out of nightclubs at crazy hours after his team gets a battering, polite and placid in interviews, comes in the for the harshest criticism and being singled out in a poor team performance and yet he just soldiers on with no axe to grind.

Although you could question some of these names as successes there's something about him that managers love too, MON (twice) Houllier (twice), Sven, Keegan, Mclaren, Capello, Bruce and gulp, even the Blues at one point.

I'm thinking some of it is obviously behind the scenes as opposed to for 90 minutes on Saturday, maybe he sticks around to play with all the youth team after training and impart worldly knowledge of the beautiful game and plays bingo with their mothers on a friday night or something.

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2011, 06:11:52 PM »
Emile heskey turns up at Villa Park with a back pack. The security guard worriedly asks him what he's got in the bag. He replies "porno dvd's, counterfeit match day tickets, hooky replica shirts, some drugs & a gun" the security guard says " Thank **** for that ... i thought you'd brought your boots!!!"

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2011, 06:17:52 PM »
Nice one VS.

Rancid, it's notable that the way these players played were him were never with Heskey in the role he's playing in the current Villa side. He was either playing as the high-up-the-pitch target man with a finisher in an old-fashioned 4-4-2 (surely not really an option for us now), or as the target man with a creator-type behind him, like Rooney or Sheringham. It's notable that when we signed Bent he was by and large consigned to the bench by GH (even when fit), because he wanted Young behind Bent to create. Heskey had/has uses in those roles in those systems - at the moment, his presence is at best neutral, at worst actively damaging because of who he's keeping out of the side.

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2011, 06:36:49 PM »
I'd go along with that Monty, Virtually all those managers and players have given him the 442 the only exception as far as I can remember was his first season at Liverpool where Houllier often played him wide right in a 433/451, there was lots of criticism for it but he had a great run of I think 11 goals around the october to december of that season. That was then and this is now though and I think Eck wants a bit of psyhicality up top, Collins and Cuellar are our tallest players and our biggest after that is maybe Petrov? I think he wants Emile to make a nuisance of himself, distract defenders to free up our little guys rather than have to have another shorty Like Bannan/Ireland on the pitch.

Offline MarkM

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2011, 06:57:52 PM »
If Heskey plays for England....

If Heskey plays for Villa...

Better get my kit together

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2011, 06:59:52 PM »
I like Heskey.

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2011, 07:01:19 PM »
It would be fair to do that, but as he himself is not creative enough his occupation of opposition players is useless as we just end up playing MON-ball and resorting to constant, aimless crosses - crosses even less effective than under MON as we don't even have two players in the box due to the position he's playing. Besides, I find the idea of not playing a creative player who happens to be short in favour of an un-creative one who happens to be big, especially for defensive reasons, at best depressingly defensive and at worst shamefully cowardly. If we're not aiming for the big time, why should supporters be subjected to such a dull football style, especially in these economic times? That is the difference playing Heskey over Bannan or Ireland makes.

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2011, 07:11:08 PM »
'I like Heskey.'

So do I.
But I'm not a coach (previous post) so I haven't a clue what he's doing wrong!
Apart from putting in an honest day's graft for his wages. 

I think his example is fantastic for the younger players when put up against a more talented player (apparently - 'Player Of The Year') like SD.  He's not perfect but who is?  His age is something he can't do anything about!   He just gives 100% and can't be held responsible for keeping others out of the team because he doesn't pick it.  So many managers and players rate him so I'm in good company!

Damn - I wasn't going to rise to another 'EH is awful' thread/comment but I'm a fan. 

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #40 on: September 05, 2011, 07:59:32 PM »
I have always rated him and I have said so before on other threads, he isnt the best player in the world but he will do what he is told.Due to his size he is a easy target for people to moan at him. He may well get a new contract if he accepts a wage reduction
This arguement for Heskey is so lame. Im not the best player in the world, and I'd do as im told in a Villa shirt. Im about the same build as Heskey too. Im shit though, and so is he.

No, that's a lame argument. You've answered a post that has tried to back up his view with one that says "he's shit because I say he is ".


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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2011, 08:25:04 PM »
He was great in the first few games last seaon, up until he got himself sent off against Sunderland. He's still got something to offer us, especially away from home in certain games, but at home, we need to start using him more as a sub in the last 20 minutes if we're winning. That's where i think he's at, at the moment.

Offline Villanation

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2011, 08:30:47 PM »
Decent bloke, thanks for the game, and hope you do well in the Championship.


Offline glasses

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2011, 12:19:37 PM »
I have always rated him and I have said so before on other threads, he isnt the best player in the world but he will do what he is told.Due to his size he is a easy target for people to moan at him. He may well get a new contract if he accepts a wage reduction
This arguement for Heskey is so lame. Im not the best player in the world, and I'd do as im told in a Villa shirt. Im about the same build as Heskey too. Im shit though, and so is he.

No, that's a lame argument. You've answered a post that has tried to back up his view with one that says "he's shit because I say he is ".


Well, actually, that is the conclusion I have drawn from the lame arguement, as 'Not best player in the world, does what he is told'

What that arguement is saying is that 'I know he isnt very good, but he does as he is told'. I think thats a lame arguement for a premiership footballer on at least £50k a week.

My arguement was such, that if that was all one looked for in a footballer, then put my name down. I just didnt put it as eloquently as that.

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Re: What is it about Emile Heskey?
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2011, 12:28:42 PM »
I have always rated him and I have said so before on other threads, he isnt the best player in the world but he will do what he is told.Due to his size he is a easy target for people to moan at him. He may well get a new contract if he accepts a wage reduction
This arguement for Heskey is so lame. Im not the best player in the world, and I'd do as im told in a Villa shirt. Im about the same build as Heskey too. Im shit though, and so is he.
Thats your opinion so thats no problem but if you ask Michael Owen and Wayne Rooney if he is a good player and they will agree with me , but everyone has their own opinion
Wasnt having a dig at you in particular Spangley, as many people do share your view, and this is a view which I particularly disagree with. As I have mentioned above responding to Chris, If that is all people want from a player, then its a pretty sad state of affairs.

To be honest, I couldnt care less what Owen and Rooney have to say, as they dont pay the money to go and watch football week in week out, and as a supporter, it grinds my gears seeing Heskey in the starting line up ahead of more gifted and talented players.

 


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