"Probably Never" % Villa - Champions League Draw

[UK Redsox]

Let's see Man City drawn with Barcelona, AC Milan and Dortmund.

Then we'll find out how good they are.

[timeoutbigbar]

When is it?

[Villanation]

Find something very odious about the Champions League, hardly watched it last season until the final, in part because a lot of the group stage football seemed boring and IMO should be straight knock out competition, but also and mainly because some of the footy is just plain and simply strange.

Take the Arsenal game last night, classic example, last week Udinese went to the Emirates and played Arsenal of the pitch for large parts of the game, in spite of losing just 1-0 should have won by 3, OK, bearing this in mind you would have thought back home, in front of there own very passionate supporters they would have come out and at least up'd there game yet further, I mean a 1 goal lead is nothing, so playing a team that you would think is considerably demoralized from the events of the last few days and within a few hours of the kick of lose another of there last remaining more prolific players............................go out and hammer Udinese at there's, fair enough its football strange other world events do happen, but when you witness a team go 1-0 up in the first half and then simply don't show in the 2nd and get hammered.......can you see where I'm going with this, anyway all felt a bit weird to me, then when you check where all the money was being bet at half time and you start getting into very strange things indeed, so best to say, I'll check back with it next spring and the final.

[KRS]

One of the idiot presenters on Talkshite were comparing Man Citeh to Barcelona the other day. Unbelieveable.

[The Man With A Stick]

What an absolute turdfest.  Way better when it was straight knockout, but it wasn't a UEFA cash cow back then.

Transfer deadline day next week too, another load of turgid old bollocks.

[UK Redsox]

When is it?

This afternoon

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14653974.stm

[The Left Side]

Live on uefa.com too

[VillaZogmariner]

A - Bayern Munich, Villarreal, Man City, Napoli

B - Inter, CSKA Moscow, Lille, Trabzonspor

C - Man Utd, Benfica, Basel, Otelul Galati

D - Real Madrid, Lyon, Ajax, Dynamo Zagreb

E - Chelsea, Valencia, Leverkusen, KRC Genk

F - Arsenal, Marseille, Olympiakos, Dortmund

G - Porto, Shaktar Donetsk, Zenit St Petersberg, Apoel

H - Barcelona, AC Milan, Bate Borisov, Viktoria Plzen

Group D looks tasty!

[JJ-AV]

As does A

[timeoutbigbar]

Couldn't have got much more difficult for City, or much easier for United.

[Nev]

Why don't they just give Newton Heath a bye and be done with it?

[The Left Side]

Manure get the easy draw again.

[Rigadon]

I'm becoming less and less interested in football that doesn't involve the Villa but every passing year the 'awe' inspiring heavy-weight-clashes-to-come look more and more drab.   

[lovejoy]

A - Bayern Munich, Villarreal, Man City, Napoli

B - Inter, CSKA Moscow, Lille, Trabzonspor

C - Man Utd, Benfica, Basel, Otelul Galati

D - Real Madrid, Lyon, Ajax, Dynamo Zagreb

E - Chelsea, Valencia, Leverkusen, KRC Genk

F - Arsenal, Marseille, Olympiakos, Dortmund

G - Porto, Shaktar Donetsk, Zenit St Petersberg, Apoel

H - Barcelona, AC Milan, Bate Borisov, Viktoria Plzen

Group D looks tasty!

Otelul Galati - says it all really.
Bold are the champions (although bizarrely Genk finished second).

[Villanation]

Couldn't have got much more difficult for City, or much easier for United.

Agree. Never ceases to amaze me, how do they do it.