And I don't tell you you can't stand up so stop being so stupidly defensive.And why do you think more women and children attend games now? The general consensus found in reports on the matter is because the overall environment at football games is more family friendly than it was. A big part of that is the absence of terracing where small people (ie many women and children) can feel intimidated by the crowd. In a seated area every one has their own personal space which women and parents appreciate.
No matter how safe a standing area can be constructed, England would be the last country to ever do it. The events of Hillsborough are too deeply ingrained and changed things forever.
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 23, 2011, 08:01:12 AMNo matter how safe a standing area can be constructed, England would be the last country to ever do it. The events of Hillsborough are too deeply ingrained and changed things forever. Whilst true, I think the biggest resistance would be from the Police, and they're the ones who have final say on any event taking place or not.
Quote from: Lee N'B on August 23, 2011, 08:34:22 AMQuote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 23, 2011, 08:01:12 AMNo matter how safe a standing area can be constructed, England would be the last country to ever do it. The events of Hillsborough are too deeply ingrained and changed things forever. Whilst true, I think the biggest resistance would be from the Police, and they're the ones who have final say on any event taking place or not. Perhaps when the official Hillsboro records are finally released this whole subject will be considered somewhat differently.
No point going backwards- it will not and should not happen.
Quote from: eastie on August 23, 2011, 07:07:49 AMNo point going backwards- it will not and should not happen.Why not?
No one is advocating the return of the terraces in all parts of a ground. Just that as in other parts of Europe one section could be made available for standing and that numbers would be strictly controlled by the sale of tickets as is the custom with all seater stadia. So for instance if the Lower Holte was made a standing area and it was licensed to hold 10,000 then when those ten thousand tickets are sold out you can't gain admission. It's that easy. Could one of you who say it is unsafe to stand please explain where the danger lies?
Quote from: The Laughing Policeman on August 23, 2011, 01:40:26 PMNo one is advocating the return of the terraces in all parts of a ground. Just that as in other parts of Europe one section could be made available for standing and that numbers would be strictly controlled by the sale of tickets as is the custom with all seater stadia. So for instance if the Lower Holte was made a standing area and it was licensed to hold 10,000 then when those ten thousand tickets are sold out you can't gain admission. It's that easy. Could one of you who say it is unsafe to stand please explain where the danger lies?The onus is actually on those who advocate a standing area to demonstrate that, in the context of British football, there would be no negative impact on the overall safety at any given ground. Before a change is even considered the authorities would have to be convinced that having a standing area would be as safe, if not safer, than keeping that area seated.
Sorry but I don't understand this "context of British football". If you mean that British football fans are more badly behaved than our European counterparts then you are sadly mistaken.
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