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Offline Fergal

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Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky? Or is it just over hyped?

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 01:43:56 PM »
Nope atmosphere is now worse.

The technical abiltiy of the players may be better but parity has gone out the window.

Offline myf

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 01:55:38 PM »
I find the game really frantic nowadays.  Lighter ball and faster players.

Offline Richie

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 01:56:52 PM »
Technically better yes.

Was it better standing on the Holte watching the likes of Platt and Cowans rather than a bunch of millionaires with no comprehension of the real world ?

Absolutely.

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 02:11:34 PM »
No, just more expensive and on tele a lot more.

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 02:23:17 PM »
I like the fact the coverage is much better now than as a kid growing up in the 70's.

Like the introduction of the back pass rule.

But that's about it.


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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 02:28:55 PM »
It's the sort of question that will always get people longing for the 'good old days', but it's worth pointing out that some things are better:-
1.  The lack of racism now in the game.
2.  Fan safety is now much more of an issue following the tragedies of the 80s.
3.  Hooliganism is now a rariety.
4.  For those who can't get to games, such as living abroad, they can now see them via satellite/internet.

What we've lost, however, is the connection between the fans and the players.  What were 'the lads' who we adored are now 'the mercanaries' who take too much money from our club.

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2011, 02:29:17 PM »
Better on the pitch, worse off it.

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 02:39:41 PM »
It was better pre premiership for 18-40 year olds not so for families or females. Now its far too sanitized but, the football is better.

Kick off times mess you about more. However, you have to admit that watching a game down the pub as a netrual is sometimes a pleasent experience which comes part and parcel of TV coverage.

Thus, there are pros and cons.

Personally even though I hanker for the days of standing on the Holte as a young lad in the 80s, the actual equivalent of Saturdays 32,000 against low profile and supported club like Blackburn would of been a 16,000 crowd and a souless walk back towards Aston Station trying to avoid a slap and horse turd.

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2011, 03:04:16 PM »
I think the standard of football in the PL (apart from maybe 3 teams) is terrible.

You get Sky telling you every 5 mins how great it is but in reality it isn't. Man utd last season had their worst team in at least 10 years and they won it at a canter.

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011, 03:07:32 PM »
on the hooligan/safety/racism issue

In 35 years of watching Villa I can honestly say that I have heard racist comments maybe twice.

Safety - 20k - 25K on the Holte and no-one ever got seriously injured.

hooliganism - again in 35 years i could count on one hand trouble inside the ground, fuck me the worst violence with the Lulu's and man Ure has been in the last 10 years.


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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2011, 03:10:39 PM »
The advantages for the average fan have been minor, the disadvantages major and for those involved in the game it is the opposite.

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 03:14:51 PM »
Because of the coverage and of course turf technology, eh?  the pitches are miles better, the footy faster, technically superior. But notwithstanding the safety, the seats and the hype I preferred the old game. Mud, blood atmosphere and guts with players who weren't overpaid Gods. Standing where you wanted with who you wanted. Too sanitized and expensive now.

Bring back safe standing terraces as per the German model imho. At least at one end. And of course, bring in rules asap to stop the rich getting richer so that four clubs fight for everything. Every season.

Signed: Grumpy old Man.

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2011, 03:15:01 PM »
on the hooligan/safety/racism issue

In 35 years of watching Villa I can honestly say that I have heard racist comments maybe twice.

Safety - 20k - 25K on the Holte and no-one ever got seriously injured.

hooliganism - again in 35 years i could count on one hand trouble inside the ground, fuck me the worst violence with the Lulu's and man Ure has been in the last 10 years.

I won't say you're wrong, but the experience of one fan at one club does not speak for the changes we've seen in the game as a whole.  And it's worth pointing out that we hadn't played the side we'll always have most trouble against for a long time until 10ish years ago!
« Last Edit: August 22, 2011, 03:21:43 PM by John M'Zog »

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Re: Is the football really so much better now, as opposed to Pre Sky?
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2011, 03:17:57 PM »
Most of the improvements for the paying customer were happening already. A lot of the increased skill (and there has been some - Gabby's goal last Saturday would have been talked about for months 20 years ago, but probably won't win Villa's goal of the season) is down to better technology - boots, pitches and the like. 

It all depends whether you rate style over substance.

 


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