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Offline Risso

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Re: Ezri Konsa - signed
« Reply #255 on: June 25, 2020, 03:02:17 PM »
Yeah quite, to single him out for blame when the goal was a clusterfuck and our best defender was also out of position looks a bit pathetic and cowardly.

I really, really can't stand Smith any more.  It's a shame when it gets to this stage, but he hasn't got the ability to manage at this level and now he's reverted to calling out the players, it's the actions of a dead man walking.

I don't think I could get to the stage where I couldn't stand a fellow Villa fan, but agree that he is out of his depth.
What does boil my piss with him is why is he so stubborn sticking with 4-4-3? Surely after all this time, he can see that it is not working.

Some Villa fans are complete arseholes so not sure what that has to do with anything. Iíve unfollowed loads on Twitter for being racist twats for example. Thatís nothing to do with Smith but being a Villa fan doesnít give anybody carte blanche from criticism.

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Re: Ezri Konsa - signed
« Reply #256 on: June 25, 2020, 03:21:57 PM »
I don't hate the guy and I don't think I ever will. He's done nothing to make me hate him. If those in charge decide he's not good enough then he will eventually be moved on, as it should be.


I agree. I think his initial remit was to ensure the 2020/21 season kicked off with Aston Villa in the Premier League. Can he fulfil that? I think he will. Is he the man to lead us to the next stage in our journey? I'm beginning to think probably not.

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Re: Ezri Konsa - signed
« Reply #257 on: June 25, 2020, 04:10:06 PM »
Yeah quite, to single him out for blame when the goal was a clusterfuck and our best defender was also out of position looks a bit pathetic and cowardly.
It's not fucking cowardly.  Why are people so desperate to throw that insult about on here?  He's called out a player who he thinks made a mistake.  I think most of us believe he's wrong, but that doesn't make him cowardly.

Desperate to throw that insult around? Eh? I don't think I've ever called someone cowardly on here before and I don't recall that many instances of it from anyone else either. Feel free to have a trawl and tell me different if that word bothers you that much.

It's cowardly because Smith himself is at least as at fault as any of the players and he could, alternatively, have ackowledged that fact and shielded the players. And because he's singled out one player who appears a lot less likely to have a go back than others (his player, less vocal than Mings who, as pointed out, was also at fault more than once in the game).

If I'm being generous it migh tbe clever kidology in that he knows Konsa well enough to know he's likely to respond well to that kind of thing. But it feels more like a poor manager in his death throes finding easy targets to blame for his failures (like Bruce did) which is a cowardly thing to do.
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Re: Ezri Konsa - signed
« Reply #258 on: June 25, 2020, 04:20:48 PM »
Ultimately he's got to sense the danger and tuck in quicker. Newcastle can't score from the touchline but Gayle centrally can and Konsa was nearest to him.

Agreed but then his man is wide open on the backpost as what happened for the first goal by Chelsea. Gayle could have played him in too.

Konsa shares a degree of blame for the goal but less so than Luiz, Hause and Mings. Mings for me should shoulder the most blame out of them all, as didn't deal with Carroll or Saint-Maxime.

Targett made a risible effort to deal with the throw in to start with. If you were being very harsh could Nyland have also been off his line quicker on Gayle.

Is it any wonder we are where we are conceding goals like that when the entire back four, holding midfielder and possibly keeper are to blame. That Smith sought to publicly call out only one of them is diabolical.

No that's all true. Ultimately that's what a relegation threatened team tends to do, look solid for an hour and then concede a cheap goal that several players could've stopped. Was same v Chelsea.

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Re: Ezri Konsa - signed
« Reply #259 on: June 25, 2020, 04:23:17 PM »
I don't hate the guy and I don't think I ever will. He's done nothing to make me hate him. If those in charge decide he's not good enough then he will eventually be moved on, as it should be.


I agree. I think his initial remit was to ensure the 2020/21 season kicked off with Aston Villa in the Premier League. Can he fulfil that? I think he will. Is he the man to lead us to the next stage in our journey? I'm beginning to think probably not.

If we can somehow stay up I'd still let him go and at least then he could walk out with his head held high and I'd like to think pretty mcuh everyone on here would wish him well.

Nightmare scenario is we go down, we start next season poorly and fans back in the ground give him dogs abuse like Bruce got v Preston.

Even if we stay up I think next season would be very tough if we lost Grealish. Same as when Sherwood fulfilled his remit for 14/15, we thought he could improve us the following season but it was a big error and ultimately we were as good as down when he got sacked in late October.


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Re: Ezri Konsa - signed
« Reply #260 on: June 25, 2020, 04:33:25 PM »
It's his first season after making the step up to this division  and overall, I think he's done ok. He's still got  a lot to learn but I think he's worth persevering with.
Yep, he has done okay but he has been part of a defence that has conceded all but 2 goals every game.  So he does have a lot learn but I just wonder who out of current set up is he going to learn it from.

Yes, and for me the two goals per game is poor defending as a team. All our defenders and keepers have individually, had plenty of decent games. I personally think midfield is the problem and maybe itís no coincidence that weíve only conceded one per game since Doug started playing really well. One thing we have to address is allowing crosses to come in so readily. That did us against Chelsea when they put an unplayable ball in, which a team like that inevitably will if you keep giving them free goes at it.

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Re: Ezri Konsa - signed
« Reply #261 on: June 25, 2020, 08:01:41 PM »
Ultimately he's got to sense the danger and tuck in quicker. Newcastle can't score from the touchline but Gayle centrally can and Konsa was nearest to him.

Agreed but then his man is wide open on the backpost as what happened for the first goal by Chelsea. Gayle could have played him in too.

Konsa shares a degree of blame for the goal but less so than Luiz, Hause and Mings. Mings for me should shoulder the most blame out of them all, as didn't deal with Carroll or Saint-Maxime.

Targett made a risible effort to deal with the throw in to start with. If you were being very harsh could Nyland have also been off his line quicker on Gayle.

Is it any wonder we are where we are conceding goals like that when the entire back four, holding midfielder and possibly keeper are to blame. That Smith sought to publicly call out only one of them is diabolical.

No that's all true. Ultimately that's what a relegation threatened team tends to do, look solid for an hour and then concede a cheap goal that several players could've stopped. Was same v Chelsea.

The ball should have been stopped from coming in, in the first place but yet again Targett was too soft and no-one else was near the crosser.  Piss poor defending, leaving Konsa one on one.  If you work harder to stop the cross, you prevent the goal.

 


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