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Offline IFWaters

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Turning points ?
« on: August 21, 2011, 10:36:14 PM »
Its probably been done to death before but what was the turning point that ended our progress in the last 5 years ?

eg - losing the League or FA semi-final at Wembley ?
which league games should we have won and grabbed 4th place in 09-10?
not signing Bent when he went to Sunderland ?
selling Milner ?
the money just ran out ?

I know MON will be mentioned but I was more interested in what you think the 'tipping point' was

For me, it was the failure to sign Bent in 2009 (even though after that we splashed several million on several mediocre defenders).

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 10:37:02 PM »
Stoke's equaliser.

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 10:41:35 PM »
Stoke's equaliser.

That fucking goal shall not be mentioned on here.

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 10:45:27 PM »
Gareth Barry's soft stoppage time corner, looped into the goalkeepers hands, just before Stoke equalised.  If he had used a bit more nous then, he could have played Champion's League with Villa.

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 10:47:21 PM »

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 10:52:51 PM »
Stoke's equaliser.

Deffo this. I will never forget that moment. They were in the first 70 minutes one of the worst sides I'd seen us face.

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 10:57:17 PM »
After the Stoke goal, the non sending off of Vidic in the league cup final. That would have given us 85 minutes against 10 men and likely seen Owen subbed. A trophy may have resulted in a different outcome regarding Milner leaving, and the whole spirit of the club.

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 11:01:07 PM »
After the Stoke goal, the non sending off of Vidic in the league cup final. That would have given us 85 minutes against 10 men and likely seen Owen subbed. A trophy may have resulted in a different outcome regarding Milner leaving, and the whole spirit of the club.

It was said by more than one observer whose opinions I tend to respect that had we won that final O'Neill would have left, on a high.

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011, 11:01:36 PM »
Moscow followed by Stoke debacle.

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 11:05:14 PM »
After the Stoke goal, the non sending off of Vidic in the league cup final. That would have given us 85 minutes against 10 men and likely seen Owen subbed. A trophy may have resulted in a different outcome regarding Milner leaving, and the whole spirit of the club.

It was said by more than one observer whose opinions I tend to respect that had we won that final O'Neill would have left, on a high.

Well at least it wouldn't have been 5 days before the start of the season.

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 11:10:05 PM »
Moscowgate, the first time I hated MON.

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 11:22:34 PM »
Moscow followed by Stoke debacle.

Yup. This would be mine. In amongst all the bile directed towards O'Neill, he came damn close to getting us not just in the top four, but the top three. I agreed with his Moscow gamble at the time, but the Stoke result rammed that decision right up his poop-chute. Sadly.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2011, 11:26:39 PM »
What a thoroughly depressing subject!!

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2011, 11:33:52 PM »
Moscow followed by Stoke debacle.

Yup. This would be mine. In amongst all the bile directed towards O'Neill, he came damn close to getting us not just in the top four, but the top three. I agreed with his Moscow gamble at the time, but the Stoke result rammed that decision right up his poop-chute. Sadly.
Agreed.

Offline JJ-AV

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Re: Turning points ?
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2011, 11:38:37 PM »
Stoke's equaliser.

This. We'd have gone 7 points clear which would have 'afforded' us defeats at Anfield and Old Trafford.

Slightly before that though, signing Heskey instead of Bent.

It was before my time, but I imagine that will compare to the Sheringham/Cascarino signing.

 


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