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Offline Stu

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Hillsborough Disaster petition
« on: August 21, 2011, 09:43:23 PM »
I couldn't see this on the main forum: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2199

100,000 signatures are needed to force the debate, this is something we should all get behind. Signing up only takes a couple of minutes.

Apologies if this has already been posted elsewhere :)

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 09:51:49 PM »
Done

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 09:54:43 PM »
Can someone tell me what this would actually achieve?

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 09:57:25 PM »
Can someone tell me what this would actually achieve?

For a start it would show the extent of the cover-up by the police.

Offline Stu

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 10:03:16 PM »
Can someone tell me what this would actually achieve?

Read this article in The Graun.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 10:11:59 PM »
Can someone tell me what this would actually achieve?

For a start it would show the extent of the cover-up by the police.
Then what happens, is it about prosecuting those that were involved in the cover up, you really think that will happen, most of them will be retired or dead.

Offline dave.woodhall

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 10:14:21 PM »
Can someone tell me what this would actually achieve?

For a start it would show the extent of the cover-up by the police.
Then what happens, is it about prosecuting those that were involved in the cover up, you really think that will happen, most of them will be retired or dead.

It means 96 families will know what really happened, for a start. Do you have a problem with that?

Offline Fin Feds Dad

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 10:18:28 PM »
Done

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011, 10:29:33 PM »
Can someone tell me what this would actually achieve?

For a start it would show the extent of the cover-up by the police.
Then what happens, is it about prosecuting those that were involved in the cover up, you really think that will happen, most of them will be retired or dead.

It means 96 families will know what really happened, for a start. Do you have a problem with that?
I think they know what happened, one of the documentorys even named the officers in charge, the dreadfull truth of what happened that day is known, the drive now appears to be to get some acknowledgement that there was a cover up. If that will make a difference to those families then fine, but where do you go from there?

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 10:32:24 PM »
Can someone tell me what this would actually achieve?

For a start it would show the extent of the cover-up by the police.
Then what happens, is it about prosecuting those that were involved in the cover up, you really think that will happen, most of them will be retired or dead.

It means 96 families will know what really happened, for a start. Do you have a problem with that?
I think they know what happened, one of the documentorys even named the officers in charge, the dreadfull truth of what happened that day is known, the drive now appears to be to get some acknowledgement that there was a cover up. If that will make a difference to those families then fine, but where do you go from there?

Like you said - acknowledgement. And also until the last "Pissed Scousers turned up late and killed their own" story is finally repudiated.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 10:51:21 PM »
Can someone tell me what this would actually achieve?



Like you said - acknowledgement. And also until the last "Pissed Scousers turned up late and killed their own" story is finally repudiated.
I get this and I also get that the mistakes that were made that day were made by people that wanted to cause the disaster is also wide of the mark.

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 10:59:51 PM »
Nobody has ever said anyone wanted the disaster to happen.

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2011, 11:08:14 PM »
Think we could get a petition for safe standing?

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2011, 11:12:12 PM »
Done. Saw the shrine (is that the right word?) at anfield last season for the first time. Truly moving, and could have been any of us or our family or friends.

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Re: Hillsborough Disaster petition
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2011, 11:24:16 PM »
I think there are two issues here.  First, the families should of course be entitled to see any information that exists which pertains to the death of their relatives, complete and unexpurgated.  Second, I would argue that it is definitely in the wider public interest to know the nature and extent of any collusion between the police and the government to prevent disclosure of any wrongdoing and / or protect senior officials.

 


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