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Offline Apyadg

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2011, 12:53:41 PM »
It says a lot about him that at 27 years old, he's still described as the ex under 21 England captain.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2011, 01:44:12 PM »
Can't help feeling he's been really badly advised.

It doesn't help that he has the reputation of being a bit sulky.

Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2011, 02:02:28 PM »
Last post on here for some time, perhaps forever, and directed to those idiots (quite a few, I don't mind saying) who lambasted me on here for defending Nigel because of course the press were right to claim that he was demanding double his wages from Villa and of course our precious club could never ever be in the wrong:

You are the kind of narrow-minded fools who make it so difficult for neutrals or outsiders to like our club, not to mention many Villa fans who have either posted on or visited H&V in the past and have come away with a bitter taste.

It's ironic really. For all the rational deduction that's so often championed on here, in Off-Topic debates and Villa-related matters alike, so many people have lacked the common sense to see that Nigel was poorly treated. And even now, people are finding reasons to pin this on him instead of asking questions of those in charge. So we criticize the likes of Downing for wanting to leave, and yet we find a way to criticize Reo-Coker for wanting to stay; even though the club hasn't done right by him. Seriously, shame on you.

ATAL.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2011, 02:06:45 PM by AsTallAsLions »

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2011, 02:32:29 PM »
Last post on here for some time, perhaps forever, and directed to those idiots (quite a few, I don't mind saying) who lambasted me on here for defending Nigel because of course the press were right to claim that he was demanding double his wages from Villa and of course our precious club could never ever be in the wrong:

You are the kind of narrow-minded fools who make it so difficult for neutrals or outsiders to like our club, not to mention many Villa fans who have either posted on or visited H&V in the past and have come away with a bitter taste.

It's ironic really. For all the rational deduction that's so often championed on here, in Off-Topic debates and Villa-related matters alike, so many people have lacked the common sense to see that Nigel was poorly treated. And even now, people are finding reasons to pin this on him instead of asking questions of those in charge. So we criticize the likes of Downing for wanting to leave, and yet we find a way to criticize Reo-Coker for wanting to stay; even though the club hasn't done right by him. Seriously, shame on you.

ATAL.

Then he should have gone to the club having ditched his agent and signed a new deal. He should have advised his agent not to speak to the press. He would have known very well what his agent said and how it might influence the club. He should have asked for a more realistic wage if he really wanted to stay. I have no more sympathy for NRC than any other footballer who is trying to sell himself to the highest bidder. Fair play for trying to get as much as possible, but ultimately he's got what he deserved by not understanding his place in the game.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2011, 03:27:05 PM by toronto villa »

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2011, 02:33:02 PM »
I like Reo Coker. But it his agents job to negotiate with the club and obviously if Nigel heard that he had been released by the club from his friends via Twitter. His agent has not done his/her job. His agent seemed to be to busy telling everyone how many CL clubs were after him. Now it appears it is WBA - Sunderland .........

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2011, 02:57:46 PM »
He'll be at WBA or QPR. Not Valencia or Napoli.

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2011, 03:18:31 PM »
Last post on here for some time, perhaps forever, and directed to those idiots (quite a few, I don't mind saying) who lambasted me on here for defending Nigel because of course the press were right to claim that he was demanding double his wages from Villa and of course our precious club could never ever be in the wrong:

You are the kind of narrow-minded fools who make it so difficult for neutrals or outsiders to like our club, not to mention many Villa fans who have either posted on or visited H&V in the past and have come away with a bitter taste.

It's ironic really. For all the rational deduction that's so often championed on here, in Off-Topic debates and Villa-related matters alike, so many people have lacked the common sense to see that Nigel was poorly treated. And even now, people are finding reasons to pin this on him instead of asking questions of those in charge. So we criticize the likes of Downing for wanting to leave, and yet we find a way to criticize Reo-Coker for wanting to stay; even though the club hasn't done right by him. Seriously, shame on you.

ATAL.

You forgot your ball.

Offline The Left Side

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2011, 04:57:22 PM »
Can't help feeling he's been really badly advised.

It doesn't help that he has the reputation of being a bit sulky.

I agree with you on the poor advice Rip.

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2011, 05:13:39 PM »
Last post on here for some time, perhaps forever, and directed to those idiots (quite a few, I don't mind saying) who lambasted me on here for defending Nigel because of course the press were right to claim that he was demanding double his wages from Villa and of course our precious club could never ever be in the wrong:

You are the kind of narrow-minded fools who make it so difficult for neutrals or outsiders to like our club, not to mention many Villa fans who have either posted on or visited H&V in the past and have come away with a bitter taste.

It's ironic really. For all the rational deduction that's so often championed on here, in Off-Topic debates and Villa-related matters alike, so many people have lacked the common sense to see that Nigel was poorly treated. And even now, people are finding reasons to pin this on him instead of asking questions of those in charge. So we criticize the likes of Downing for wanting to leave, and yet we find a way to criticize Reo-Coker for wanting to stay; even though the club hasn't done right by him. Seriously, shame on you.

ATAL.
Bye then. But just before you go, how do you know what exactly happened?

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2011, 06:03:21 PM »
Change of management won't help the situation but that football. Never assume your job is for life even your contract run out and you will automatically get one on your whim.

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2011, 06:26:44 PM »
Last post on here for some time, perhaps forever, and directed to those idiots (quite a few, I don't mind saying) who lambasted me on here for defending Nigel because of course the press were right to claim that he was demanding double his wages from Villa and of course our precious club could never ever be in the wrong:

You are the kind of narrow-minded fools who make it so difficult for neutrals or outsiders to like our club, not to mention many Villa fans who have either posted on or visited H&V in the past and have come away with a bitter taste.

It's ironic really. For all the rational deduction that's so often championed on here, in Off-Topic debates and Villa-related matters alike, so many people have lacked the common sense to see that Nigel was poorly treated. And even now, people are finding reasons to pin this on him instead of asking questions of those in charge. So we criticize the likes of Downing for wanting to leave, and yet we find a way to criticize Reo-Coker for wanting to stay; even though the club hasn't done right by him. Seriously, shame on you.

ATAL.

He wanted a contract the club couldn't/wouldn't deliver.  Was he really that valuable to Villa that we have to offer him a double your money deal?  No chance, absolutely no chance.  Nowhere near good enough. He had his chance to sign a really decent contract and didn't want because he thinks he's better than he is.  Good riddance.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2011, 10:47:30 PM »
Last post on here for some time, perhaps forever, and directed to those idiots (quite a few, I don't mind saying) who lambasted me on here for defending Nigel because of course the press were right to claim that he was demanding double his wages from Villa and of course our precious club could never ever be in the wrong:

You are the kind of narrow-minded fools who make it so difficult for neutrals or outsiders to like our club, not to mention many Villa fans who have either posted on or visited H&V in the past and have come away with a bitter taste.

It's ironic really. For all the rational deduction that's so often championed on here, in Off-Topic debates and Villa-related matters alike, so many people have lacked the common sense to see that Nigel was poorly treated. And even now, people are finding reasons to pin this on him instead of asking questions of those in charge. So we criticize the likes of Downing for wanting to leave, and yet we find a way to criticize Reo-Coker for wanting to stay; even though the club hasn't done right by him. Seriously, shame on you.

ATAL.

Why do you think he's struggling to find another club?

Either he or his agent decided he was better than he actually is.  If he was on £40k per week on his last contract (as was rumoured) and wanted a significant rise (as was also rumoured) then he was way off target.  I'm sure the club would've offered him a contract but he must've turned it down as he thought he was worth more.  The fact he's not found his Champions League club suggests we're not the only club with that view.

He was a decent mid-table player.  He was bought in as a squad player at the start of MON's reign and has never progressed beyond that.  He looked decent last year because we were struggling in a relegation battle.  I won't lose any sleep over him leaving and in 10 years time I'll have probably forgotten he ever played for us.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2011, 10:56:43 PM by Ad@m »

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2011, 10:55:38 PM »
Last post on here for some time, perhaps forever, and directed to those idiots (quite a few, I don't mind saying) who lambasted me on here for defending Nigel because of course the press were right to claim that he was demanding double his wages from Villa and of course our precious club could never ever be in the wrong:

You are the kind of narrow-minded fools who make it so difficult for neutrals or outsiders to like our club, not to mention many Villa fans who have either posted on or visited H&V in the past and have come away with a bitter taste.

It's ironic really. For all the rational deduction that's so often championed on here, in Off-Topic debates and Villa-related matters alike, so many people have lacked the common sense to see that Nigel was poorly treated. And even now, people are finding reasons to pin this on him instead of asking questions of those in charge. So we criticize the likes of Downing for wanting to leave, and yet we find a way to criticize Reo-Coker for wanting to stay; even though the club hasn't done right by him. Seriously, shame on you.

ATAL.

Sorry Mr Reo-Coker, we promise not to diss your son again.

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2011, 11:11:02 PM »
He's gone, get over it!

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: NRC upset at Villa for not talking to him when the season ended.
« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2011, 12:08:08 AM »
I doubt he asked for too much, more they weren't prepared to sign him when the manager who wanted him was being let go - same as Bradley - just not common sense to commit millions on a player's contract when he may not be wanted.  Overall he's got a bad deal through circumstances and being shafted by MON originally in one of his periodic player freeze-outs he specialised in. Can't be helped i'm afraid.

 


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