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Author Topic: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages  (Read 19874 times)

Offline RunRickyRun

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2011, 03:57:16 PM »
And we get told what a great businessman RL is.

I like RL but fuck me:

Curtis davies - 5 million loss
Habib Beye - 8 Million
NRC - signed for 8 million leaves on a free
Steve Sidwell - 3 million loss
Salifou - Cost us a couple of million

Salaries at 88% of turnover

Randy's running of Aston Villa as a viable business has been awful. The wages to turnover ratio is unsustainable.

On the other hand, it shows just how much money he has put into the club while we made a push for Champions League football. When he goes, we wont be signing any £12 million let alone be selling them.

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2011, 04:19:15 PM »
You can't fault lerner for the money he has put in but I thinks his total hands off approach has come back to haunt him.

RL is a billionaire - just,  so for him to have spent some £200 million of his own money with no hope of getting any sort of return is madness. He wanted CL and we tried but that is just a distant dream now so I think he is cutting his cloth accordingly

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2011, 04:31:10 PM »
How many other managers would have gave Habib Beye £40k a week? Sidwell £50k a week? Heskey £50k a week? on deals that were obviously too long.

Offline Billy Walker

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2011, 04:48:13 PM »
You can't fault lerner for the money he has put in but I thinks his total hands off approach has come back to haunt him.

RL is a billionaire - just,  so for him to have spent some £200 million of his own money with no hope of getting any sort of return is madness. He wanted CL and we tried but that is just a distant dream now so I think he is cutting his cloth accordingly

I would hope he gets his money back if/when he sells the club.  Surely the club must be worth the best part of two hundred million?

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2011, 04:54:48 PM »
You can't fault lerner for the money he has put in but I thinks his total hands off approach has come back to haunt him.

RL is a billionaire - just,  so for him to have spent some £200 million of his own money with no hope of getting any sort of return is madness. He wanted CL and we tried but that is just a distant dream now so I think he is cutting his cloth accordingly

I would hope he gets his money back if/when he sells the club.  Surely the club must be worth the best part of two hundred million?

That's the only scenario I can think of.

The Gen repeatedly says he's a businessman, and businessmen don't piss as much money up the wall as Randy without seeing a return down the line - Villa tattoo or not !

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2011, 04:56:06 PM »
What it will be like if Steve Stride actually stay on and we appoint someone else instead of MON. I bet we will be in Champions League without wage bill headache.

Did Steve Stride quit, retired or let go. I can't understand why Stride is not at Villa Park.

Offline Discoveryman

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2011, 05:01:42 PM »
thats why o'neil is no longer manager, it was he who gave out record contracts to a lot of average players. and why chief executives left and couldnt work with him.

Offline eric woolban woolban

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2011, 09:14:55 PM »
Do we know how many staff members that paid?

This would give us an avergae salary (which I bet per week, is more than most earn in a year or even two).

Football is insane. A huge bubble actually needs to burst for the good of the game. Somebody big needs to go bust. Just hope it's not us.

Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2011, 09:18:59 PM »
I think we should rename the thread now - VillaDawg v Risso Part 259

Get ahead of the game!

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2011, 09:22:15 PM »
I think we should rename the thread now - VillaDawg v Risso Part 259

Get ahead of the game!

(with added Spurs Comparisons from page 47)

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2011, 09:23:13 PM »
This is football for you. Full of greedy bastards demanding more and more money

Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2011, 09:35:33 PM »
I think we should rename the thread now - VillaDawg v Risso Part 259

Get ahead of the game!

Haven't you heard? I'm considered a lilly-livered moderate these days. Paulie even agrees with me every now and then.

Offline Matt C

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2011, 09:46:25 PM »
£80m a year for that shower? Christ on a bike.

MON played his part but there's only one man who signs the cheques, I'm afraid we can't hide behind the evil O'Neill notion forever.

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2011, 10:17:57 PM »
£80m a year for that shower? Christ on a bike.

MON played his part but there's only one man who signs the cheques, I'm afraid we can't hide behind the evil O'Neill notion forever.

If Lerner is guilty of anything, it is naively backing O'Neill unquestioningly for far too long.

He's not free from blame, but to suggest that he's mostly to blame for O'Neill signing a succession of underused, overpaid duffers we now can not give away is in the realm of fantasy, unfortunately.

I suspect that the very same people who would now have it be known that they blame Lerner for that are the same ones who were muttering "well, he forced MON out, because he wouldn't sanction deals for player x, y or z" (where x, y AND z are all overpriced, mediocre UK based players).

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Re: From £22.5million to £80million in 4 years - AVFC wages
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2011, 10:26:49 PM »
Quite.

Or if he hadn't coughed up the dough on the back of a decent 07/08 and 08/09, he'd have been accused of not being bold enough to seize the initiative and all manner of comparisons with Ellis would have ensued. Oh wait...

 


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