Quote from: Rip Van Bentfletch on July 05, 2011, 04:26:06 PMQuote from: toronto villa on July 05, 2011, 02:24:01 PMQuote from: Rip Van Bentfletch on July 05, 2011, 12:31:56 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on July 05, 2011, 12:18:42 PMCameron may or may not be a decent enough bloke on a personal level and he may or may not be a genuine Villa supporter but because he is the leader of a party that stands for virtually everything I loathe in society and politics, every time I see a picture of him in a Villa shirt I cringe.Summed up perfectly.in truth I thought that about Labour by the end of Blair/Brown. It's not the same Labour as it was when I lived there where you felt they understood the working masses. I'd have wanted to vomit if Blair, Brown or Milliband wore the shirt.I hate the thought of any politician wearing our colours.they are regular people though as well. You can hate them for their politics, but it doesn't mean that aren't allowed to have the same passions as anyone else. I have no idea how much of a Villa fan Cameron is, and quite frankly I don't care. If he wants to wear a Villa PJ set to bed, it's his business as much as he should be allowed to go out for a run wearing what he wants without someone taking a picture and having it blasted all over the internet.
Quote from: toronto villa on July 05, 2011, 02:24:01 PMQuote from: Rip Van Bentfletch on July 05, 2011, 12:31:56 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on July 05, 2011, 12:18:42 PMCameron may or may not be a decent enough bloke on a personal level and he may or may not be a genuine Villa supporter but because he is the leader of a party that stands for virtually everything I loathe in society and politics, every time I see a picture of him in a Villa shirt I cringe.Summed up perfectly.in truth I thought that about Labour by the end of Blair/Brown. It's not the same Labour as it was when I lived there where you felt they understood the working masses. I'd have wanted to vomit if Blair, Brown or Milliband wore the shirt.I hate the thought of any politician wearing our colours.
Quote from: Rip Van Bentfletch on July 05, 2011, 12:31:56 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on July 05, 2011, 12:18:42 PMCameron may or may not be a decent enough bloke on a personal level and he may or may not be a genuine Villa supporter but because he is the leader of a party that stands for virtually everything I loathe in society and politics, every time I see a picture of him in a Villa shirt I cringe.Summed up perfectly.in truth I thought that about Labour by the end of Blair/Brown. It's not the same Labour as it was when I lived there where you felt they understood the working masses.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on July 05, 2011, 12:18:42 PMCameron may or may not be a decent enough bloke on a personal level and he may or may not be a genuine Villa supporter but because he is the leader of a party that stands for virtually everything I loathe in society and politics, every time I see a picture of him in a Villa shirt I cringe.Summed up perfectly.
Cameron may or may not be a decent enough bloke on a personal level and he may or may not be a genuine Villa supporter but because he is the leader of a party that stands for virtually everything I loathe in society and politics, every time I see a picture of him in a Villa shirt I cringe.
Quote from: toronto villa on July 05, 2011, 06:25:27 PMQuote from: Dave Cooper on July 05, 2011, 06:16:09 PMQuote from: toronto villa on July 05, 2011, 06:03:34 PMhonestly Chris? What's he got to gain from wearing a Villa top? Man of the people and all that."Look at me, I love footy, and I don't just like Manchester and Arsenal, I like little old Aston Villa, aren't I great and just like a normal person?"again, I think we're looking deeper into that we need to. If he really wanted to be a man of the people Dave he'd have a Tamworth top on He'd just get taken for a homeless tramp in one of them.
Quote from: Dave Cooper on July 05, 2011, 06:16:09 PMQuote from: toronto villa on July 05, 2011, 06:03:34 PMhonestly Chris? What's he got to gain from wearing a Villa top? Man of the people and all that."Look at me, I love footy, and I don't just like Manchester and Arsenal, I like little old Aston Villa, aren't I great and just like a normal person?"again, I think we're looking deeper into that we need to. If he really wanted to be a man of the people Dave he'd have a Tamworth top on
Quote from: toronto villa on July 05, 2011, 06:03:34 PMhonestly Chris? What's he got to gain from wearing a Villa top? Man of the people and all that."Look at me, I love footy, and I don't just like Manchester and Arsenal, I like little old Aston Villa, aren't I great and just like a normal person?"
honestly Chris? What's he got to gain from wearing a Villa top?
Quote from: toronto villa on July 05, 2011, 04:54:54 PMQuote from: Rip Van Bentfletch on July 05, 2011, 04:26:06 PMQuote from: toronto villa on July 05, 2011, 02:24:01 PMQuote from: Rip Van Bentfletch on July 05, 2011, 12:31:56 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on July 05, 2011, 12:18:42 PMCameron may or may not be a decent enough bloke on a personal level and he may or may not be a genuine Villa supporter but because he is the leader of a party that stands for virtually everything I loathe in society and politics, every time I see a picture of him in a Villa shirt I cringe.Summed up perfectly.in truth I thought that about Labour by the end of Blair/Brown. It's not the same Labour as it was when I lived there where you felt they understood the working masses. I'd have wanted to vomit if Blair, Brown or Milliband wore the shirt.I hate the thought of any politician wearing our colours.they are regular people though as well. You can hate them for their politics, but it doesn't mean that aren't allowed to have the same passions as anyone else. I have no idea how much of a Villa fan Cameron is, and quite frankly I don't care. If he wants to wear a Villa PJ set to bed, it's his business as much as he should be allowed to go out for a run wearing what he wants without someone taking a picture and having it blasted all over the internet.At the risk of repeating myselfHe has an a very good reason to do the "I'm just a normal bloke" who just happened to go to Public School, to play down The Bullingdon Club "Cameron's Cronies" photo http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/the-bullingdon-club/It might of course just be a coincidence that the photo is now banned in the national mediahttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6409757.stm
Without the help of the working man (and more recently the Lib Dems), the Conservatives wouldn't have a hope in hell of being elected. Working class Conservatism (whether in your view that is aspirational or merely delusional) has been an important factor in post-war politics.
Quote from: SteveD on July 05, 2011, 07:53:13 PMWithout the help of the working man (and more recently the Lib Dems), the Conservatives wouldn't have a hope in hell of being elected. Working class Conservatism (whether in your view that is aspirational or merely delusional) has been an important factor in post-war politics.Now now Steve, we'll have less of this considered, rational debate on here. Didn't you know that on Heroes & Pravda, all Tories are upper class twits who look down on us working class folk and are only supported by their brainwashed lackies whilst Labour represents all that is great about the Socialist movement and looks out for the working man in his struggle against injustice.It's all true I tells ya. Next week, the Loch Ness Monster, definitive proof.
Quote from: IFWaters on July 04, 2011, 07:04:14 AMQuote from: Diablo on July 03, 2011, 03:46:50 PMJust as I would have been physically sick at the image (or thought) of Margaret Thatcher in a Villa shirt I'm as equally disturbed by a self confessed "child of Thatcher" in one. It's all part of his (he's just a normal guy) act - as staged as that video blog from his home. He's a dangerous tosser that is lining the pockets of his rich school chums, whilst his policies will have a long lasting negative effect on the vast majority of people. He's one of the last people I want to see in a Villa shirt coming just behind Harold Shipman. Would you have the same objections if he played a game of keepy-uppies with McLeish or claimed he used to spend most weekends on the Holte cheering on Tony Daley ? Or would that be ok, and just what a 'normal guy' who went to public school would do ?I would have exactly the same objection if he played a game of keepy-uppies with any of our past or future managers as I object to him using the club for his own PR purposes. It would be interesting to hear him speak more about his alleged support - if he has spent every other weekend in the directors box cheering on Tony Daley, Tony Morley or even Tony Dorigo at least it would add some validity to his "I'm a Villa fan story". As his job is basically spin and lies I know he does have a "story" to hand, how true that "story" is, I fear is an entirely different matter. Just to recap, he has to do the "I'm just a normal bloke" who just happened to go to Public School, to play down The Bullingdon Club "Cameron's Cronies" photo http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/the-bullingdon-club/Interestingly the photo is now banned in the national mediahttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6409757.stm
Quote from: Diablo on July 03, 2011, 03:46:50 PMJust as I would have been physically sick at the image (or thought) of Margaret Thatcher in a Villa shirt I'm as equally disturbed by a self confessed "child of Thatcher" in one. It's all part of his (he's just a normal guy) act - as staged as that video blog from his home. He's a dangerous tosser that is lining the pockets of his rich school chums, whilst his policies will have a long lasting negative effect on the vast majority of people. He's one of the last people I want to see in a Villa shirt coming just behind Harold Shipman. Would you have the same objections if he played a game of keepy-uppies with McLeish or claimed he used to spend most weekends on the Holte cheering on Tony Daley ? Or would that be ok, and just what a 'normal guy' who went to public school would do ?
Just as I would have been physically sick at the image (or thought) of Margaret Thatcher in a Villa shirt I'm as equally disturbed by a self confessed "child of Thatcher" in one. It's all part of his (he's just a normal guy) act - as staged as that video blog from his home. He's a dangerous tosser that is lining the pockets of his rich school chums, whilst his policies will have a long lasting negative effect on the vast majority of people. He's one of the last people I want to see in a Villa shirt coming just behind Harold Shipman.
I will personally break my 25-year abstention from participation in the electoral democratic process for any politician who comes out and says, "I know nothing about football, care even less and won't insult your intelligence by squeezing my outsized gut into a shoddy piece of sweat-shop stitched polyester in frankly unflattering primary colours advertising a Korean photocopier manufacturer in order to convince you otherwise in a nakedly fraudulent attempt to court your support."You obviously really miss Thatcher.
Quote from: martin on July 06, 2011, 03:41:56 PMI will personally break my 25-year abstention from participation in the electoral democratic process for any politician who comes out and says, "I know nothing about football, care even less and won't insult your intelligence by squeezing my outsized gut into a shoddy piece of sweat-shop stitched polyester in frankly unflattering primary colours advertising a Korean photocopier manufacturer in order to convince you otherwise in a nakedly fraudulent attempt to court your support."You obviously really miss Thatcher.