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Author Topic: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??  (Read 16224 times)

Offline fitzy

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IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« on: July 01, 2011, 11:15:22 AM »
Just been watching the recent Interview with Saunders on AVTV. Memories !!!

However has got me thinking - was impressed with McLeish coming out so quickly and laying down the law as to who is the boss, seems to me we could have a new Saunders on our hands, instilling dicipline, focus on teamwork,  and a very clear directive saying ' What he says goes'

Worked very well for Mr Saunders - I know it was a different era, but refreshing nonetheless not to hear the usual pandering to the players egos . May just work.

Would you bet against him !!!


Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2011, 11:16:42 AM »
Behave yourself.

Offline Duncan Shaw

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2011, 11:20:56 AM »
Clutching at straws methinks, but let's hope so eh?

Offline willywombat

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2011, 11:24:49 AM »
Time will tell, hope so

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2011, 11:36:48 AM »
It's a thought and let's hope you're right.

Offline not3bad

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2011, 11:40:39 AM »
Would you bet against him !!!

I think that there's a fair few that would but thanks for the optimism.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2011, 11:49:51 AM »
Just been watching the recent Interview with Saunders on AVTV. Memories !!!

However has got me thinking - was impressed with McLeish coming out so quickly and laying down the law as to who is the boss, seems to me we could have a new Saunders on our hands, instilling dicipline, focus on teamwork,  and a very clear directive saying ' What he says goes'

Worked very well for Mr Saunders - I know it was a different era, but refreshing nonetheless not to hear the usual pandering to the players egos . May just work.

Would you bet against him !!!



I'm sorry, it's all nonsense.
I'm afraid he's not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Saunders.

The instilling discipline stuff is crowd pleasing guff, very few managers in the Premier League have the power to instill discipline. Upset a player and he'll cause problems in training, get left out and get a nice new club sorted by his agent.

I'm preying McLeish can do well, but hyperbole about him before a ball has been kicked in anger is laughable.

Offline UsualSuspect

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2011, 11:54:02 AM »
Just been watching the recent Interview with Saunders on AVTV. Memories !!!

However has got me thinking - was impressed with McLeish coming out so quickly and laying down the law as to who is the boss, seems to me we could have a new Saunders on our hands, instilling dicipline, focus on teamwork,  and a very clear directive saying ' What he says goes'

Worked very well for Mr Saunders - I know it was a different era, but refreshing nonetheless not to hear the usual pandering to the players egos . May just work.

Would you bet against him !!!



I'm sorry, it's all nonsense.
I'm afraid he's not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Saunders.

The instilling discipline stuff is crowd pleasing guff, very few managers in the Premier League have the power to instill discipline. Upset a player and he'll cause problems in training, get left out and get a nice new club sorted by his agent.

I'm preying McLeish can do well, but hyperbole about him before a ball has been kicked in anger is laughable.

Agree totally.

I think its a disservice to mention AM in the same breath as Saunders never mind comparing him.

All very well saying how good Small heaths team spirit was, but it didnt stop them from playing the worst football in the league and getting relegated did it.

Offline fitzy

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2011, 11:54:48 AM »
Much the same as writing him off before said ball is kicked as well, I suppose

Offline UsualSuspect

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2011, 11:58:15 AM »
Did I write him off?

Must have written it in invisible ink


Offline fitzy

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2011, 12:02:00 PM »
Your comments were hardly that of someone with an open mind

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2011, 12:02:09 PM »
Much the same as writing him off before said ball is kicked as well, I suppose
Nobody's writing him off, just saying that any sort of comparison to Saunders doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

Offline UsualSuspect

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2011, 12:05:38 PM »
I put your statement on par with someone who compared Baros to Brian Little.

So blues never played the worst football in the league, scored the fewest goals and got relegated then?

I dont like AM because he's from Small Heath i dislike him for the horrible, turgid football he plays.

The proof of the pudding will be in our first 3 signings.


Offline fitzy

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2011, 12:17:44 PM »
My point is that he has come in and has showed courage, to go out there straight away and set standards from the off.

That shows strength of character and a good deal of leadership and will breed respect, which like it or not was lacking last season.

Dunne, Collins et al will be under no illusion who is calling the shots, and will knucke down for the good of the team.

I am sorry but there is a comparison to be had with Saunders to be had in this respect.To Saunders the team ethic was the most important factor in delivering what he wanted to achieve and he was brutal in his desire to achieve this. 110% anybody. Gidman found out that he was not a man to be messed with.

A rudderless ship, regardless of the quality of its staff is going to go around in circles - he is providing direction. Time will tell if its rhetoric, but scrutiny and opinion should be witheld until he has been given a chance.

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Re: IS McLeish the new Saunders ??
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2011, 12:20:05 PM »
I'm preying McLeish can do well ...

Preying, eh? - when do you think you'll strike at him?

 


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