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Offline jonzy85

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Stephen Warnock
« on: June 21, 2011, 10:50:20 AM »
I never quite understood what happened with Warnock last season. He started the season playing regularly and was fairly awful (along with the rest of the team). But others were dropped then brought back in, but Warnock was completely bombed out.

Now excuse my ignorance here, I believe there may have been some row with Houllier over where he lived?? I suspect this happened around the time last season when I avoided all Villa-related media stories and websites like the plague. What actually happened? Do we know or is it conjecture? I just didnt understand the whole "Warnock-being-a-d***" stuff.

Either way, am I alone in hoping that he is given a clean slate? True he was awful last season, but on that basis we would be looking to get rid of most of the squad. It's not that long ago since he went to the World Cup and was our regular left back in the 09/10 season, when we had the 2nd best defence in the league. There isn't exactly an over-supply of quality left backs around and certainly not experienced Premier League ones like Warnock. I think we could end up spending a lot of money replacing him and not get much in return as his value would be quite low right now.

I hope Eck gives him another chance and maybe signs a young up and coming left back as his understudy. There also is the option of playing him in midfield, if required.

Offline Ger Regan

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 11:01:05 AM »
His attitude was absolutely rotten from the accounts that I remember hearing last season. If it's true he said something along the lines of "fuck you and this shitty club" (i'm paraphrasing, but remember it being something similar to this), then he should never play for us again.

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2011, 11:05:34 AM »
I'd heard rumours of Warnock and Dunne being late for training and rather the worse for wear.

Dunne knuckled down but Warnock didn't.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2011, 11:07:29 AM »
Warnock was great up until he got rushed back for the Carling Cup Final by O'Neill.

Then I don't think he was fit the rest of that season.

Offline CheeriOneill

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2011, 11:09:06 AM »
Get Rid!!

If we signed Tevez I might consider putting up with his shite attitude as he a a great player. Warnock is too wank to be anything other than a model proffesional.


Offline Irish villain

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2011, 11:11:34 AM »
José Enrique of Newcastle, we should go get him as our left back. Otherwise sign a right back and push Young into Left back where he can always do a solid job. I think it'd be best Warnock went.

Offline UsualSuspect

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2011, 11:18:57 AM »
Mcleish in the next 2 weeks needs to get rid of Dunne, Warnock & Ireland. If he does then I will start to be won over

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2011, 11:19:15 AM »
Depends whether our budget will stretch to someone like Enrique who I rate.

If it doesn't, maybe just give Warnock a second chance and if he doesn't take it then we can maybe look elsewhere in Januray?

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2011, 11:25:28 AM »
He was good when he signed, but rushed back for the final as someone else mentioned above and never got his form back for the rest of 09/10.  Last summer he was in the team and doing moderately well, but as soon as Houllier came in his card was marked as he got rid of him from Liverpool.

Cliche time - "I think there's a good player in there somewhere", but if he's attitude is not right best to get rid for what we can.  I'm happy to leave it up to Mcleish to decide. 

Another thing to consider though is with his presumed brief for using the kids more, might we be seeing Clark as our first choice LB next season?  It makes sense as he has form for using a CB there (Agent Ridgewell) and it would give the lad good experience before he eventually moves into the centre of the defence.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2011, 11:33:40 AM by John M »

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 11:40:35 AM »
I wouldn't want Clark to be a left back, he'll be wasted there as I think he'll be a top class centre back.

I think McLeish will give all the players here a fresh start. Including Warnock, Ireland & Dunne.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 11:44:31 AM »
My understanding is him and GH had 'previous'. Doesn't excuse how he acted, but realistically how many of our troublemakers are we going to offload?  Pre-season will tell us if some of them are willing to knuckle-down. I'll be interested to see what shirt size Dunne is wearing for a start.

Offline QBVILLA

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2011, 11:47:24 AM »
For me he has to give every player a clean slate, if only for the potential financial loss we could incur.Ireland especially has an abundance of ability and whilst he appears to be an arsehole i'm not planning on socialising with him so he'd be judged by what he does on the pitch rather anything he said off it.

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2011, 11:55:44 AM »
For me he has to give every player a clean slate, if only for the potential financial loss we could incur.

That's fine in theory, but as he's retianed Sid I can imagine the first thing he'll do is get a run down of each player from him - can you imagine what he'll say about Dunne, for instance?

McLeish is a disciplinarian, so taking one of the three (Warnock, Dunne and Ireland) and showing the rest of the squad who's boss by fucking them out the door might be a good way to start!

Offline Merv

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2011, 12:09:13 PM »
Warnock's a funny one. Excellent for six months, then fairly ordinary (though still going to the WC), then all over the place for six months (ill-disciplined, flying into reckless challenges), then completely bombed out of the squad even though we barely had a senior LB to turn to.

Be interested to see what AM does with him, and one or others. Something that struck me about GH is that he seemed to have big problems with a handful of players we barely heard a peep out of under MON.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Stephen Warnock
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2011, 12:14:16 PM »
Warnock's a funny one. Excellent for six months, then fairly ordinary (though still going to the WC), then all over the place for six months (ill-disciplined, flying into reckless challenges), then completely bombed out of the squad even though we barely had a senior LB to turn to.

Be interested to see what AM does with him, and one or others. Something that struck me about GH is that he seemed to have big problems with a handful of players we barely heard a peep out of under MON.

yeah but they were the ones who under MON were guaranteed to play however crap they were barring injury. Most people could name our starting line-up and subs bench every week.

 


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