Are we mathematically safe? - Yes

[Brian Taylor]

What a sad load of old conjecturists we are..
We are made to be contenders and mid-table also rans
When Ron won the European cup it was his death knell
No real ambition just a great fanatical crowd who turn up in droves when we as winning one or two.
Been the same since they sacked Joe Mercer..looks like always will be.
Grimsby's biggest ever crowd was against Villa in Third division back in..oh 1970 odd? or was it Scunthorpe? or perhaps it was Accrington Stanly but we were thrashing them every game and the crowds came in droves to see and it was great..who was it now sticking goal after goal past shite never were and never will be teams..but we were winning and that was all that mattered except it was the Third div.
The owners know how lucky they are and how extra lucky they will be to get the Premiership millions again next season backed by the best and most gullible crowd any club could ever wish for..
Survive..of course we will.. maybe we can come 15th or even 16th next year and feel we've made progress? Lerner just counts the gate money and effs off back to Miami for the rest of the time. Ellis was happy doing it in Four Oaks.
Someone is taking the piss and it ain't me..

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

What a sad load of old conjecturists we are..
We are made to be contenders and mid-table also rans
When Ron won the European cup it was his death knell
No real ambition just a great fanatical crowd who turn up in droves when we as winning one or two.
Been the same since they sacked Joe Mercer..looks like always will be.
Grimsby's biggest ever crowd was against Villa in Third division back in..oh 1970 odd? or was it Scunthorpe? or perhaps it was Accrington Stanly but we were thrashing them every game and the crowds came in droves to see and it was great..who was it now sticking goal after goal past shite never were and never will be teams..but we were winning and that was all that mattered except it was the Third div.
The owners know how lucky they are and how extra lucky they will be to get the Premiership millions again next season backed by the best and most gullible crowd any club could ever wish for..
Survive..of course we will.. maybe we can come 15th or even 16th next year and feel we've made progress? Lerner just counts the gate money and effs off back to Miami for the rest of the time. Ellis was happy doing it in Four Oaks.
Someone is taking the piss and it ain't me..

I dont think your taking the piss. Frankly, reading through what you have said or tried to say I'm not certain what you have taken.
Incidentally we never had any games against either Grimsby or Scunthorpe during our 3rd Division days.

[olaftab]

We'll draw 0-0 with Arsenal and fuck up any fleeting hopes of the title for them.

A clean sheet away from home?

The only way Dunne will keep a clean sheet at Arsenal is to not to go to the loo!

[Matt Collins]

Just did the BBC predictor and the following results would take us down:

Wolves beat West Brom at home
Blackpool beat Bolton at home
Wolves win at Sunderland
We get spanked at Arsenal (say 4-0)
Bham beat Fulham
Wigan beat West Ham
We lose to Liverpool (say 3-0)
Blackpool win at Old Trafford
Wigan win at Stoke
Wolves beat Blackburn at home

The chances of all those results, with a sufficient goal swing, is almost unimaginable. It would take teams who have barely been able to put two good results together to win all their remaining games. But it's not absolutely inconceivable.

If West Brom equalise today, it would take Blackburn to win all their remainign games along with a perfect storm of results elsewhere to do it.

I think it would probably qualify as the most unlucky relegation in history!

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

And if you're pessimistic enough to think that combination of results is going to happen, you should be able to get fantastic odds.

[curiousorange]

As it stands, Wigan and Blackpool need to win both of their games and rely on a goal swing of unlikely proportions for us to be in trouble.

And it goes without saying that we need lose both of our remaining games, and don't manage to score in either.

[Martyn Smith]

How shit does it feel to hope that Spuds beat Bleakpuddle so we are 'mathematically' safe

You said it Fergal...

[garyfouroaks]

And it goes without saying that we need lose both of our remaining games, and don't manage to score in either.

And this is unlikely?

[Martyn Smith]

My analysis is that we could mathematically still finish as low as 19th. 18th is a more distinct possibility. What may well save us is our goal difference. It would need a 10 goal turnaround over the next two games for either Wigan or Blackpool to finish ahead of us on g/d, although if we lost our last two games, Blackburn won one of theirs, Wolves won their last two and Blues got 4 points it would only need one of Wigan or Blackpool to turn the g/d around with 2 wins (Wigan looks the more likely of the two to do that.)

[Sarunyu]

We are not safe now? We have 3 Game to get the win Stoke/WBA/Wigan but we can not.
Still need new manager.

[Martyn Smith]

We are not safe now? We have 3 Game to get the win Stoke/WBA/Wigan but we can not.
Still need new manager.

Precisely. We've pissed away points that should've been there for the taking, and now we're relying on games away to Arsenal and home to Liverpool, games we should be able to afford to lose without too much compromise, to get the point that'll make us safe.

[Martyn Smith]

To answer maidstone's opening point BTW, the only game involving two teams below us who could both mathematically catch us is Wolves v Blackburn on the final day. There is still Wigan v West Ham to come also but W Ham cannot catch us and seem to be doomed.

[VillaAlways]

We are not safe now? We have 3 Game to get the win Stoke/WBA/Wigan but we can not.
Still need new manager.

Precisely. We've pissed away points that should've been there for the taking, and now we're relying on games away to Arsenal and home to Liverpool, games we should be able to afford to lose without too much compromise, to get the point that'll make us safe.

Gary Mac  thinks the Arsenal and Liverpool are games where the team can "enjoy themselves " even though we are not 100 % safe.Unbelievable

[nick harper]

Just did the BBC predictor and the following results would take us down:

Wolves beat West Brom at home
Blackpool beat Bolton at home
Wolves win at Sunderland
We get spanked at Arsenal (say 4-0)
Bham beat Fulham
Wigan beat West Ham
We lose to Liverpool (say 3-0)
Blackpool win at Old Trafford
Wigan win at Stoke
Wolves beat Blackburn at home

The chances of all those results, with a sufficient goal swing, is almost unimaginable. It would take teams who have barely been able to put two good results together to win all their remaining games. But it's not absolutely inconceivable.

If West Brom equalise today, it would take Blackburn to win all their remainign games along with a perfect storm of results elsewhere to do it.

I think it would probably qualify as the most unlucky relegation in history!

Although that sequence of results would be unbelievable, if you look at each one individually, they could easily go the way we don't want. The only truly exceptional results would be if Blackpool won at Old Trafford. It could well come down to goal difference.

[Lobsterboy]

The fact that this thread exists and that the answer is still technically no says all you need to know about an absolute dog shit season...