0% Villa - an arrestable offence?

[Astral Weeks]

Also I've been to some sh!tty 60s/70s build, nothing to do with your time, poundland-tastic places in my time but Crawley takes the buscuit.

Indeed, it makes Wolverhampton seem like Rome. Quite the most utterly soulless place you could ever wish to find yourself..

I'm not having that. I once spent a week in Bracknell.

[UK Redsox]

It wasn't a sexist gesture/remark
It wasn't a racist gesture/remark

It may have been in bad taste but I can't see any reason why the police should become involved

[Lambert and Payne]

Pathetic...

* The twat doing it in the first place.
* The twat complaining to the police.
* The police for arresting the first twat.

Agreed

[Blagg]

So we've reached the stage where a teenager has his civil liberties curtailed without prosecution or trial, for what amounts to a "thought crime"?

It's more of a 'lack of thought' crime.  He's not the first kid to not think through the consequences of his actions. It was
juvenile, no more than that.  Not dangerous to anyone and not illegal.

The real offence seems to have been upsetting the untouchables that are Man Utd.

[richard moore]

Also I've been to some sh!tty 60s/70s build, nothing to do with your time, poundland-tastic places in my time but Crawley takes the buscuit.

Indeed, it makes Wolverhampton seem like Rome. Quite the most utterly soulless place you could ever wish to find yourself..

I'm not having that. I once spent a week in Bracknell.

Nah, Bracknell is not as bad as Crawley but possibly worse than Basingstoke...

[Pete3206]

Perhaps we should complain about:

this

or this

I certainly think thats more serious than some misguided knobhead flapping his arms about.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

You surely can't arrest someone for taking the piss, however crass and distastefull?

My mate got knicked once for asking a copper if his head went to the top of his hat, so there is precedent.

The Crawley guy is a classless prick whereas your mate seems to have a fine pythonesque sense of humour with a healthy questioning of authority. However neither should be arrested.

[Stu]

He's been banned for life by Crawley: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/15/crawley-fan-manchester-united-munich

This is a massive, massive over-reaction. What he did was stupid and thoughtless but he's only 19 for gods sake. Why the fuck are the police acting on behalf of Manchester United anyway? No need for an arrest, he'd already showed himself up to be a total tool in the video.

As if Man U need protecting from the ill-thought out piss-taking of a Crawley Town fan. Christ almighty.

[Small Rodent]

Maybe he was a fan of Vicenze Montella's "aeroplane" goal celebration? (I think it was Montella and not Totti).

[D.boy]

A few things need clarifying....
The police would only have got involved if someone contacted them to complain about the youths behaviour.
A public order offence is fairly low key in the grand sheme of things.
If the youth is on bail it hasn't impacted on his human rights/civil liberties as he is free to come and go as he pleases. All this means is he has to return to a police station on a certain time/date for the matter to be finalised.
I wouldn't be suprised if he has been given a bail condition "not to go to Crawley fotball club".

[villa1]

I should imagine the police had no choice but to get involved. If someone makes a complaint, they have to, surely?

Damned if they do...

I'd say the kid's just a bit thick really and is probably regretting his actions now.

[Chris Smith]

I should imagine the police had no choice but to get involved. If someone makes a complaint, they have to, surely?

Damned if they do...

I'd say the kid's just a bit thick really and is probably regretting his actions now.

Of course they have a choice. Just imagine what the country would be like if they arrested everyone who a complaint was made against. I'd never be out of the station.

[villa1]

I think what i'm trying to say, is that if someone has done something offensive, like our mate in this video has, and there is evidence, and a complaint, they probably have to.

D.boy?

I know what i'm trying to say anyway.

[Chris Smith]

I think they're obliged to investigate but arresting him seems over the top to me.

Manu fans think nothing of trivialising paedophilia with the song they sing about Wemger yet get offended by a bloke behaving like a knob in a video.

[Villa'Zawg]

A few things need clarifying....
The police would only have got involved if someone contacted them to complain about the youths behaviour.
A public order offence is fairly low key in the grand sheme of things.
If the youth is on bail it hasn't impacted on his human rights/civil liberties as he is free to come and go as he pleases. All this means is he has to return to a police station on a certain time/date for the matter to be finalised.
I wouldn't be suprised if he has been given a bail condition "not to go to Crawley fotball club".

As I understand it, the police have effectively banned him from going to the match in Manchester.