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Author Topic: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?  (Read 21754 times)

Offline JJ-AV

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What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« on: January 06, 2011, 07:21:17 PM »
It's been playing on my mind since last night just how far we've falling since hitting 40+ every week and looking like finsihing in the top 4, to losing 0-1 at home to fucking Sunderland, with £12.50 tickets infront of 34k and finishing the night in the relegation zone.

In 2 years we've falen massive, and while not all of these are anyone inparticulars fault. But what has gone wrong since Jan 2009 when we looked likely to finish in the top 4?

1) A lack of investment in January leaving us with gaps in our squad.

2) MON’s lack of rotation that cost us 4th place, not trusting the squad players that he signed and thus alienating them.

3) Laursen’s retirement.

4) Signing Downing with the Barry money. We could have got Johnson for half the price, smaller wages and he wasn’t injured.

5) Signing Dunne on such a long and big contract. Fantastic for a season, but 18 months into his 4 year deal on 60k a week, he’s arguably not good enough anymore.

6) Signing Beye

7) Selling Gardner while the likes of NRC and Sidwell were ahead of him in the pecking order.

8) Delph’s injury

9) Failing to sell Davies, Beye, Sidwell, Osbourne, Heskey or Carew in the Summer. Heskey is the only one who contributes anything yet they’ve earned £12m in wages between them in 2010. Without taking into account the bigger fees we’d have got in the Summer.

10) Not investing in the squad last Summer.

11) Selling Milner

12) Signing Ireland

13) MON walking

14) Promising to appoint a new manager so quickly and thus backing yourself into a corner

15) Randy ruling out appointing anyone who was currently in a position as a manager, and thus limiting the appointment to applicants.

16) Not giving it to Kevin Mac ‘for the foreseeable future or until an outstanding applicant becomes available’.

17) Appointing Houllier before he was actually able to take over, not having any idea if we’d be able to get his preferred choices for assistants before giving him the job.

18) Houllier singling out Dunne, Warnock, Ireland and Carew. We need them.


Anything I've missed?  ;)

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 07:31:16 PM »
MO'N dropping us in the shit 5 days before the start of the season.

Offline Dave

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 07:36:23 PM »

Offline themossman

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 07:37:19 PM »
I've been thinking this today too. For me the biggest thing is us selling our most reliable and influential player twice in relatively quick succession. Maybe gb and jm weren't our best players but they made us tick and never had a bad game. Put downing and ireland in for them and the result isn't exactly unexpected.

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 07:38:31 PM »
Bluntly, the money ran out. We spent a hell of a lot of money trying to improve on 6th with less and less progress. MON wanted more spending and when he didn't get it he surmised that this team had peaked and he couldn't stop the rot with limited funds. This isn't the first time we've gone from flying high to near relegation in a couple of seasons and its usually down to players leaving, other players getting past it, and replacements not being good enough. We've had all three in spades

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 07:41:29 PM »
1) Mon's cnutery
2) Houllier's incompetence

 

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 07:43:58 PM »
Our manager walking round Anfield with a hard-on.

Offline manic-road

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 07:44:36 PM »
Selling Barry and Milner and not replacing them.

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2011, 07:47:14 PM »
the amount of stupid free kicks we seem to give away....

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2011, 07:49:54 PM »
1) Mon's cnutery
 

When did he become King of England, Denmark and Norway?

Offline puppyfeat

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2011, 07:57:41 PM »
The combined effect of the Moscow (a) and Stoke (h) games back to back had a seismic effect. After the Stoke game we lost our next 4 league games and didn't win again until early May - 8 games later - and only won one more after that. O'Neill was criticised for the first time since he joined and the players confidence was shot. It was a reality check - we aimed for the sun, got our wings burned and fell to earth.

If we'd made it into the Champs Lg that season we'd have been ahead of the game compared to Spurs (especially) and Man City, been able to attract better players and probably kept Barry and Milner. But we didn't, and the rest is history.

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2011, 08:03:05 PM »
The combined effect of the Moscow (a) and Stoke (h) games back to back had a seismic effect. After the Stoke game we lost our next 4 league games and didn't win again until early May - 8 games later - and only won one more after that. O'Neill was criticised for the first time since he joined and the players confidence was shot. It was a reality check - we aimed for the sun, got our wings burned and fell to earth.

If we'd made it into the Champs Lg that season we'd have been ahead of the game compared to Spurs (especially) and Man City, been able to attract better players and probably kept Barry and Milner. But we didn't, and the rest is history.
Yep, the Moscow game was the start alright.
I wonder where it will end?

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2011, 08:05:26 PM »
The claret sock's need a mention!

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2011, 08:05:51 PM »
Dunne quite clearly isn't good enough anymore

It's laughable how atrocious he has been this season, I genuinely can't remember the last game he played where he hasn't either very nearly or HAS cost us a goal

He's improved since he came back into the side, yet even then he was at fault for one of the Chelsea goals. Last night that tackle that give the free kick away for the goal was ridiculous

Bolton at home sticks in my mind as his worst game from memory, Blues away when he let Jerome through for the one on one and when he let Jerome Thomas through and nearly equalised at the death both stick in my mind as well.

If Ridgewell or Knight were still knocking about i'd be moaning to get them in the side which says it all

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Re: What's gone wrong since Jan 2009?
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2011, 08:10:56 PM »
Randy's given up.

 


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