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Offline Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air

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How about a British League Cup ?
« on: December 04, 2010, 06:17:46 PM »
Im not usually one for change or tinkering but how about combining the English and Scottish league cups ?
One cup competiton for 134 teams, 92 from England and 42 from Scotland ?
You can argue about who gets byes to round 2 and 3, but otherwise its an open draw.
The final would alternate each season between Wembley and Hampden irrrespective of the finalists.
It would give rise to plenty of debate for fans about the relative strengths of English and Scottish teams, and not just the Rangers/Celtic thing.
You would get new grounds to visit on occasion, I would love a draw where we might get something like Stenhousemuir away.

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2010, 06:36:18 PM »
After the scenes at the sty the other night?  Somehow I can't see the police warming to the idea of Millwall v Rangers.  Plus, can you imagine the attendances at Villa Park against Stranraer on a cold Tuesday night in November?

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2010, 06:37:11 PM »
Stupid idea.

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2010, 06:38:40 PM »
I thinks it's a good idea, I would have 1st 2 rounds in each country (i.e. English teams play each other as do the Jocks), then an open knock-out format bringing the 2 leagues together.

It could lead as an introduction for the old firm coming down here, but that's another well discussed arguement....

Offline Lambert and Payne

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2010, 06:43:22 PM »
I think its a brilliant idea. I love the sound of going to some more grounds. Ibrox is a smashing stadium by the way. And if were gunna talk about trouble. We wouldnt get much from any of these

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2010, 06:43:47 PM »
Not under any circumstances. No.


Offline Nigel Macdougall

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2010, 06:49:42 PM »
One reason why not ....09.10.1976

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2010, 06:50:09 PM »
The attendances suck as it is at the moment in the earlier rounds.

Does anyone really want to face Falkirk away on a Wednesday night?

Then you'd have the big(oted) 2 coming down with their own unique approach to fan diplomacy. Anyone who was around in the 70's will probably tell you Rangers coming to Villa Park again is a bad idea. More recently than that the citizens of Manchester probably have their own take on the idea, following the shenanigans before and after the UEFA Cup Final in 2007 in that city.

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2010, 06:51:55 PM »
2008 wern'it?

Offline Lambert and Payne

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2010, 06:55:58 PM »
The attendances suck as it is at the moment in the earlier rounds.

Does anyone really want to face Falkirk away on a Wednesday night?

Then you'd have the big(oted) 2 coming down with their own unique approach to fan diplomacy. Anyone who was around in the 70's will probably tell you Rangers coming to Villa Park again is a bad idea. More recently than that the citizens of Manchester probably have their own take on the idea, following the shenanigans before and after the UEFA Cup Final in 2007 in that city.
So much is made of the uefa cup final, out of 150k fans in the city, there was only a 100 or so arrests. Can you imagine 100k Liverpool fans in Manchester or anything like that? Carnage! It was piss poor organization that night and the police were heavy handed.

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2010, 06:56:54 PM »
Does anyone really want to face Falkirk away on a Wednesday night?


Yes, these are the sort of things I want. Never been to Falkirks ground.

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 07:00:41 PM »
Does anyone really want to face Falkirk away on a Wednesday night?


In all fairness, Falkik looks pretty good. Tyncastle, Easter Road, Ibrox, Parkhead. Sounds good to me!

Hasn anyone been to Ibrox?

Yes, these are the sort of things I want. Never been to Falkirks ground.

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2010, 07:08:02 PM »
The attendances suck as it is at the moment in the earlier rounds.

Does anyone really want to face Falkirk away on a Wednesday night?

Then you'd have the big(oted) 2 coming down with their own unique approach to fan diplomacy. Anyone who was around in the 70's will probably tell you Rangers coming to Villa Park again is a bad idea. More recently than that the citizens of Manchester probably have their own take on the idea, following the shenanigans before and after the UEFA Cup Final in 2007 in that city.
So much is made of the uefa cup final, out of 150k fans in the city, there was only a 100 or so arrests. Can you imagine 100k Liverpool fans in Manchester or anything like that? Carnage! It was piss poor organization that night and the police were heavy handed.

100 arrests doesn't mean there were only 100 fans playing up.

It just means they were the only ones the cops could isolate long enough to get hold of.

Very difficult to make arrests if you have a few thousand all playing up at the same time in the same place. There was TV footage of the carry on before and after and it didn't look like a tea party, put it that way. Don't forget that that was against soft opposition, as Zenit didn't take many and Manchester was a neutral venue too. If they were to do that in Manchester, Birmingham, Cardiff or East London with the home sides fans in town it's not a huge stretch of the imagination to think it could be a fair bit worse.

No doubt a few will point to the times Rangers have come down when they face Man U in the CL. But numbers are strictly limited ion those games due to the allocation and Manchester United's support. Against teams who don't sell out (like ours) they're more likely to chance their arm and travel down on the offchance.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2010, 07:10:13 PM by KevinGage »

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2010, 07:09:47 PM »
Why not an English/Spanish Cup. In the Summer.

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Re: How about a British League Cup ?
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2010, 07:10:36 PM »
The attendances suck as it is at the moment in the earlier rounds.

Does anyone really want to face Falkirk away on a Wednesday night?

Then you'd have the big(oted) 2 coming down with their own unique approach to fan diplomacy. Anyone who was around in the 70's will probably tell you Rangers coming to Villa Park again is a bad idea. More recently than that the citizens of Manchester probably have their own take on the idea, following the shenanigans before and after the UEFA Cup Final in 2007 in that city.
So much is made of the uefa cup final, out of 150k fans in the city, there was only a 100 or so arrests. Can you imagine 100k Liverpool fans in Manchester or anything like that? Carnage! It was piss poor organization that night and the police were heavy handed.

No way should there have been that many Rangers fans in the city.  They were probably only allocated around 20,000 tickets. 

Also there are probably a lot more than a hundred Rangers fans who deserved arrest for their actions that night.

 


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