Our Centre Halves

[darren woolley]

Dunne as to be dropped and Cuellar must replace him and put Clark in to replace Collins that would hopefully shore up the defence.

[itbrvilla]

Pair of absolute liabilities, they should feel deeply ashamed of their inept displays.

Bet the fuckers don't care.  Look at Dunne against Blackburn laughing and joking at the final whistle.  He should be fucking ragging

[KevinGage]

Birch Collins. Feed Dunne to the facking pigs.

There's plenty to go around.

[Leighton]

Clumbersome dozy fuckers. Both of them!

[adamski villa]

Davies and King Carlos for CB, put both Collins and Dunnn in the stiffs

[vilan461]

Pair of absolute liabilities, they should feel deeply ashamed of their inept displays.

M
 Could,nt agree more, between these 2 clowns they gave the penalty away--how many balls did Dunne pass to a blue shirt,?--both need dropping ASAP they play like sloaths, put Carlos in and get Davies back if Clark is still needed in midfield,--changes must be made,

[Risso]

3 clean sheets all season, and 12 goals conceded in the last 5 games.  Rubbish.

[pauliewalnuts]

Dunne must be sold.

He is absolutely shit. We can't have ago at Collins, his partner is shite.

Houllier has too see how shit he is.

Well if he cant see how obviously overweight and shit he has been this season there is something seriously wrong.

I mentioned this on the PMT.

What kind of calorific intake is required to undergo PL level training day to day and STILL be overweight?

[Ad@m]

Its de-rigeur to slate MON on here but its blindingly obvious to me that he was getting those two playing at the absolute peak of what they were capable of.

Without MON to manage them they look like Championship players.

[eric woolban woolban]

While the centre-backs have been very poor these last few games, the rest of the defence hasn't been very good either.

I have no confidence in Friedel at the moment when a long ball is hit into our box. He seems so hesistant.

And don't get me started on Warnock.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Collins is the better of the two but Dunne is just shocking

[andym]

without experienced centre mids in there like stan and nrc to protect them, the defence are being shown for what they really are: strong in the air and tackle but slow, clumsey, error prone and technically pathetic. they cant even control the ball or pass it 10 yards most of the time.

weve had 10 league games under houllier and the first five we had at least one of petrov or nrc in midfield- we let in 4 goals (one of which was a ridiculous dunne og). the five games since where weve had to play the youngster weve let in 11.

they dont seem to be leaders or able to organise the back line which is worrying considering they late 20's and early 30's.  they shouldn't need experience infront of them to be good, its them who should be setting the example to the youngsters.

i also think having carlos at RB last year papered over the cracks somewhat for dunne and collins. they did play well, but a lot of time carlos would be there with a great last ditch tackle or cleaing it off the line when one of them had fucked up.

[glasses]

Whilst I dont blame Houllier for our current run

Buck stops with him for me I'm afraid. He will take the plaudits when we play well and are successful, he has to take the flak when its not so good. He trains with the players daily, and picks the team. The defence have been poor, but he chooses who plays, and also instructs them to play his way. He has had plenty of time to get some results on the board.

[ian c.]

without experienced centre mids in there like stan and nrc to protect them, the defence are being shown for what they really are: strong in the air and tackle but slow, clumsey, error prone and technically pathetic. they cant even control the ball or pass it 10 yards most of the time.

Good point. 

I get the feeling that the midfield is often too far from the defence at the moment. I would certainly have Cuellar in for Dunne next time round.

[richard moore]

Its de-rigeur to slate MON on here but its blindingly obvious to me that he was getting those two playing at the absolute peak of what they were capable of.

Without MON to manage them they look like Championship players.

I don't think they are quite that bad Adam, but nor were they ever so good either. We probably over-rated them then and are now denigrating them too much maybe. Seems to be what happens with so many players these days...