Quote from: Merv on November 08, 2010, 12:36:46 PMThis time next year I think we'll see a very different Villa.We may, but is that a good thing?OK, results so far this season have been poor, but to me we still have a good squad to choose from with the ability to make top 6 again. So there's a lot here to work with, even if there is a need to shift some out. What I'd like to bee is maybe 4 player brought in, who would be starters, in the right positions some of the 'deadwood' is moved on. I'm just concerned about going backwards if we abandon what and who got us to a regular 6th position. I'd like to see us build on that as opposed to starting again.
This time next year I think we'll see a very different Villa.
How do you define a legend? Ian Taylor is one for me but most of the players who have played for the last 10 years or so would not make it to the "Legend" status. I think it would be best for everyone if Carew left as he has not done enough for some time for me.
Quote from: John M on November 08, 2010, 12:52:49 PMQuote from: Merv on November 08, 2010, 12:36:46 PMThis time next year I think we'll see a very different Villa.We may, but is that a good thing?OK, results so far this season have been poor, but to me we still have a good squad to choose from with the ability to make top 6 again. So there's a lot here to work with, even if there is a need to shift some out. What I'd like to bee is maybe 4 player brought in, who would be starters, in the right positions some of the 'deadwood' is moved on. I'm just concerned about going backwards if we abandon what and who got us to a regular 6th position. I'd like to see us build on that as opposed to starting again.whether people like Houllier or not, he does things his way, and undeniably he has won trophies wherever he has been. I don't need the players to like the manager. I want the players to respect the manager's role, and the decisions he has to make. GH will rotate the squad and we likely not in his reign see a regular line up. The players now, and in the future will need to get used to that. Additionally they need to get out of the comfort zone many were in under MON and realize that we can't just accept nearly getting there. That it will take something extra to turn semi-finals and final appearances to something more meaningful.GH is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way, but at the end of the day I want trophies more than anything else. If going backwards this year "positionally" means the future we have stronger and better players, then I will take that. I expect a clearout of a number of under performers and kids given a chance. I'll take a hungry Bannan or Clark over a Sidwell or Carew any day of the week. If that equals going backwards in the short term then so be it.
Quote from: toronto villa on November 08, 2010, 01:37:01 PMQuote from: John M on November 08, 2010, 12:52:49 PMQuote from: Merv on November 08, 2010, 12:36:46 PMThis time next year I think we'll see a very different Villa.We may, but is that a good thing?OK, results so far this season have been poor, but to me we still have a good squad to choose from with the ability to make top 6 again. So there's a lot here to work with, even if there is a need to shift some out. What I'd like to bee is maybe 4 player brought in, who would be starters, in the right positions some of the 'deadwood' is moved on. I'm just concerned about going backwards if we abandon what and who got us to a regular 6th position. I'd like to see us build on that as opposed to starting again.whether people like Houllier or not, he does things his way, and undeniably he has won trophies wherever he has been. I don't need the players to like the manager. I want the players to respect the manager's role, and the decisions he has to make. GH will rotate the squad and we likely not in his reign see a regular line up. The players now, and in the future will need to get used to that. Additionally they need to get out of the comfort zone many were in under MON and realize that we can't just accept nearly getting there. That it will take something extra to turn semi-finals and final appearances to something more meaningful.GH is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way, but at the end of the day I want trophies more than anything else. If going backwards this year "positionally" means the future we have stronger and better players, then I will take that. I expect a clearout of a number of under performers and kids given a chance. I'll take a hungry Bannan or Clark over a Sidwell or Carew any day of the week. If that equals going backwards in the short term then so be it.I've got no issue with taking a step back in order to take two forward, but I just don't think that needs to be all that big a step.
I'm just concerned about going backwards if we abandon what and who got us to a regular 6th position. I'd like to see us build on that as opposed to starting again.
whether people like Houllier or not, he does things his way, and undeniably he has won trophies wherever he has been. I don't need the players to like the manager.
I have had very little positive that he has to say about anyone at the club other than Heskey.
Quote from: toronto villa on November 08, 2010, 01:37:01 PMwhether people like Houllier or not, he does things his way, and undeniably he has won trophies wherever he has been. I don't need the players to like the manager. I know it's not the central point but I don't remember Houllier winning anything with the French national team, with Cantona, Ginola, M 'lazy' Desailly, L Blanc, J-P Papin, P Le Guen et al.
Quote from: Fred on November 08, 2010, 01:22:47 PMHow do you define a legend? Ian Taylor is one for me but most of the players who have played for the last 10 years or so would not make it to the "Legend" status. I think it would be best for everyone if Carew left as he has not done enough for some time for me.I think in order to be classed as a Legend it's a mix of what you do for the club with how you leave and then your attitude afterwards. For me, of the recent batch that would be Taylor, Mellberg and Laursen.Some, and Platt springs to mind, could have been if they were just a bit more respectful after leaving.