Quote from: Bad English on November 07, 2010, 07:05:50 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on November 07, 2010, 03:34:28 PMQuote from: Bad English on November 07, 2010, 03:17:01 PMI think we should all get a sense of perspective. We must all remember that Gérard Houllier has vast experience when it comes to hanging on for a result. It's not as if he's got previous when it comes to losing in the 94th minute, is it?Wasn't that scored in the regulation 90?94 minutes and 58 seconds. That's why it was fucking awesome. I was watching live. Houllier (on Canal + France) was still calling Ginola a 'twat' for his crossfield ball this summer, seventeen years later (Ginola went ape and said he wanted to press charges for libel or whatever). So it must be fresh in his mind...I was just going on the clock in the corner that was ticking up to 45.00. According to that it was scored 44:58.
Quote from: Somniloquism on November 07, 2010, 03:34:28 PMQuote from: Bad English on November 07, 2010, 03:17:01 PMI think we should all get a sense of perspective. We must all remember that Gérard Houllier has vast experience when it comes to hanging on for a result. It's not as if he's got previous when it comes to losing in the 94th minute, is it?Wasn't that scored in the regulation 90?94 minutes and 58 seconds. That's why it was fucking awesome. I was watching live. Houllier (on Canal + France) was still calling Ginola a 'twat' for his crossfield ball this summer, seventeen years later (Ginola went ape and said he wanted to press charges for libel or whatever). So it must be fresh in his mind...
Quote from: Bad English on November 07, 2010, 03:17:01 PMI think we should all get a sense of perspective. We must all remember that Gérard Houllier has vast experience when it comes to hanging on for a result. It's not as if he's got previous when it comes to losing in the 94th minute, is it?Wasn't that scored in the regulation 90?
I think we should all get a sense of perspective. We must all remember that Gérard Houllier has vast experience when it comes to hanging on for a result. It's not as if he's got previous when it comes to losing in the 94th minute, is it?
Quote from: Dave Cooper on November 07, 2010, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: toronto villa on November 06, 2010, 09:22:42 PMBirch? A Villa legend? An average player who ran around a lot and tried really hard. And you have him up there with McGrath, Little and Gray. Crikey.To be a legend you don't necessarily have to be the best player.come on now Dave. The term "legend" gets thrown around far too easily, and needs to be reserved for our true greats. I loved Paul Birch for his effort and enthusiasm but he isn't one of our true greats by any stretch.
Quote from: toronto villa on November 06, 2010, 09:22:42 PMBirch? A Villa legend? An average player who ran around a lot and tried really hard. And you have him up there with McGrath, Little and Gray. Crikey.To be a legend you don't necessarily have to be the best player.
Birch? A Villa legend? An average player who ran around a lot and tried really hard. And you have him up there with McGrath, Little and Gray. Crikey.
...And again I say, a legend does not have to be a great player.It's all about perception.In legend stakes I would put Eamon Deacey above John Carew.
Quote from: Mr Diggles on November 07, 2010, 06:29:44 PMWhat a twat Carew is. He's done nothing on the pitch since 20 mins against Reading last year, and is obviously far more bothered about fans singing his name than playing or scoring. He can feck off. Houllier has done nothing wrong, but for Carew to claim Houllier has more to prove to the fans than he does is ridiculous and shows how obsessed he is with his own cult hero status (which for me is an absurd belief held by some Villa fans) and how disrespectful he is about the new regime.If I ever see him in a Villa shirt again I will be very disappointed. He's the past, not the club's present or future.I reckon the people who support him at the games aren't as enlightened as we internet users and that they base their opinion solely on the fact he is one of the most prolific goalscorers they have ever seen in a Villa shirt. Dopes.
What a twat Carew is. He's done nothing on the pitch since 20 mins against Reading last year, and is obviously far more bothered about fans singing his name than playing or scoring. He can feck off. Houllier has done nothing wrong, but for Carew to claim Houllier has more to prove to the fans than he does is ridiculous and shows how obsessed he is with his own cult hero status (which for me is an absurd belief held by some Villa fans) and how disrespectful he is about the new regime.If I ever see him in a Villa shirt again I will be very disappointed. He's the past, not the club's present or future.
Quote from: Villadawg on November 07, 2010, 07:25:27 PMQuote from: Mr Diggles on November 07, 2010, 06:29:44 PMWhat a twat Carew is. He's done nothing on the pitch since 20 mins against Reading last year, and is obviously far more bothered about fans singing his name than playing or scoring. He can feck off. Houllier has done nothing wrong, but for Carew to claim Houllier has more to prove to the fans than he does is ridiculous and shows how obsessed he is with his own cult hero status (which for me is an absurd belief held by some Villa fans) and how disrespectful he is about the new regime.If I ever see him in a Villa shirt again I will be very disappointed. He's the past, not the club's present or future.I reckon the people who support him at the games aren't as enlightened as we internet users and that they base their opinion solely on the fact he is one of the most prolific goalscorers they have ever seen in a Villa shirt. Dopes.OK, nowhere did I question his goalscoring record, I merely pointed out that he has been inexcusably shit when he has played (which has not been often) over the course of the last 18 or so months, aside from 20 mins in the second half against Reading. It pisses me off so much that whilst playing, actually on the pitch, he will turn to the Holte to applaud them for singing a song - he should be concentrating on the fucking match. You don't see anyone else do that mid-game. I think the hero worship of him is seriously misplaced - he's done nothing on the pitch for a while, looks disinterested, if reports are true can't even be bothered to turn up for certain cup games mid-week, and generally shows an overinflated opinion of himself which for me clearly translates into a lack of effort. Considering his physique and ability I think he shows a criminal lack of effort to produce the best he can as often as he can, especially considering his likely wage. Look instead at the hunger showed by Bannan, Albrighton, Clark, even Delfouneso at the weekend.He's a waste of space. The song is a delusional effort based on past glories and wasted on an egomaniac. Get rid, as quickly as possible. But if you want to carry on signing an embarrasing song, its up to yuou.
Headline in today's Times: Carew May Have Burnt His Bridges With Villa.Gérard Houllier called it paranoia, Mark Hughes called it emotion and some may label it as childish. But the row that has erupted between the Aston Villa manager and John Carew, his striker, is sufficiently vitriolic possibly to spell the end of the Norwegian's career in the Midlands."I like John but if the fans chant his name and the end product is nothing then fans will chant, 'Houllier go home,'" Houllier said.