Quote from: Dave Cooper on October 08, 2010, 05:52:50 PMThe key point is that increasingly, if the various forums are to be believed (yes I know the internet is not the real world!), ST holders are starting to feel aggrieved that their loyalty in paying up front is being eroded.Again, the view of the minority is blown up as the view of the majority.From running through this thread there are 4 people who roughly fall in to the "The club is ripping season ticket holders off" camp (being mrvilla, pauliewalnuts, rutski, PMcGNo5Shirt) and 8 in the "The club are just doing what they can to sell tickets and I don't mind it" camp (being me, toronto, pete3206, clampy, chrissmith, johnm, villaalways, ukredsox). Some of those are borderline but hopefully it's a pretty clear indication that the majority think the club are doing the right thing and it's not going to affect future season ticket sales.
The key point is that increasingly, if the various forums are to be believed (yes I know the internet is not the real world!), ST holders are starting to feel aggrieved that their loyalty in paying up front is being eroded.
I've always paid per game as I have been unable to attend some games due to other commitments.I have just commited to a half season ticket as a trial really.If things work out ie being able to attend most games ( although Spurz is already out of the window).I would commit to a full season ticket next year.So looking at it that way,presuming other people are in the same position as me it's a positive thing especially if the football is improving on the pitch hopefully the uptake will increase
Quote from: Ad@m on October 08, 2010, 06:02:34 PMQuote from: Dave Cooper on October 08, 2010, 05:52:50 PMThe key point is that increasingly, if the various forums are to be believed (yes I know the internet is not the real world!), ST holders are starting to feel aggrieved that their loyalty in paying up front is being eroded.Again, the view of the minority is blown up as the view of the majority.From running through this thread there are 4 people who roughly fall in to the "The club is ripping season ticket holders off" camp (being mrvilla, pauliewalnuts, rutski, PMcGNo5Shirt) and 8 in the "The club are just doing what they can to sell tickets and I don't mind it" camp (being me, toronto, pete3206, clampy, chrissmith, johnm, villaalways, ukredsox). Some of those are borderline but hopefully it's a pretty clear indication that the majority think the club are doing the right thing and it's not going to affect future season ticket sales.i would actually like to know who out of the 'passive8' go to all the games? I know toronto does not as he lives inanother country, but more importantly how many season ticket holders do not mind deals getting dished out willy nilly!
From running through this thread there are 4 people who roughly fall in to the "The club is ripping season ticket holders off" camp (being mrvilla, pauliewalnuts, rutski, PMcGNo5Shirt) and 8 in the "The club are just doing what they can to sell tickets and I don't mind it" camp (being me, toronto, pete3206, clampy, chrissmith, johnm, villaalways, ukredsox).
Some of those are borderline but hopefully it's a pretty clear indication that the majority think the club are doing the right thing and it's not going to affect future season ticket sales.
One of the themes of this thread, Adam, is that you're clearly not actually reading what people are saying.
Do you think the club would be comfortable for one in every three eason ticket holders to be thinking about whether there's any financial value in buying a season ticket?
That's the point - it might fill the ground a couple more tines this season but what are the long term effects on season ticket holder numbers?If the longer term (ie next season) impact is to reduce full season tickwt holder numbers then it is short term gain, long term loss.
It becomes even more of an issue if ST holders are forced to miss a game or two due to changed KO times, then there is definitely a chance that they won't make any savings.
I think the matchday prices were pitched far too high at the start of the season. Bearing in mind the visitors so far at Villa Park, the crowds have not been that bad. But, I can't see any game selling out this season because we have a clutch of 'AA' fixtures within a couple of months and the prices will put people off, especially when people can watch all games in certain pubs now. The club is in a dicey position and I think, very worried about declining attendances. Special offers therefore are unavoidable because they feel they must do something, anything to get punters back through the turnstiles.As a season ticket holder, it narks me a bit, but I'd rather see 38,000 in the ground, than 32,000. Plus, I've always got my regular seat anyway and avoid the big panic whenever the really special occasions come around (as rare as they are).