0% Villa: Liverpool's goal today

[darren woolley]

Look forward to seeing it on match of the day.

[atomicjam]

You can find the goal here...

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=263629.80


Towards the bottom of the page within the thread.

[greenwichvilla]

Seems ok to me.

[Somniloquism]

I think Sunderland did fuck up there but you see similar things over less of a distance all the time in the Prem and players and Refs don't assume the ball has been kicked. Most refs only blow for the resumption of a freekick when there is a shot at goal chance and he has to sort out the wall..

[dave shelley]

Just watched it on the link above and as far as I'm concerned as bad as it looks the goal stands. What people don't realise is that a referee does not have to blow his whistle to start/restart  the game or indeed to make a decision it just helps. He could in all probability have said to the Sunderland player "whenever you're ready get on with it" and as long as the ball travels it's own circumference then it's in play and fair enough the Liverpool player was in the wide awake club. There was a get out clause for the referee if he'd been thinking on his feet, he could have called play back and said he wasn't ready. Not fully honest but it would have avoided all the flack he's going to get. Also as a junior referee you are always told to always run backwards wherever possible keeping the flashpoint situations in view and this lad obviously didn't. I know there are people out there who think that referee's are dim witted scum of the earth types only out to screw their club over but incidents of this type only go to prove just how difficult it can be, even though if God meant us to run backward He would have put our feet on the other way round!

[lovejoy]

That goal is a disgrace. Massive poor sportsmanship by scousers (I am suprised this suprises me). Whats pivotal is whether the free kick should have been taken from the spot he back heeled the ball or further back. Either way common sense should prevail. Its the same as when a guy goes to take a throw but then decides to give it to his team mate and underarms it to him. Should refs award a foul throw?

[UK Redsox]

Looks OK to me.

It looks like the Sunderland player was passing it to the keeper (as would have been the norm when keepers could pick up the ball) rather than rolling it to a spot for the keeper to take.

A definite balls up by Sunderland and all credit to Kuyt and Liverpool. When you're in the shite like they are, you've go to take advantage of every scrap that's thrown to you.

[olaftab]

Seen the link. Very surprised  and shocked that Lpool supporters can write and  embed  Video links  in a chat forum!

 Oh the goal nothing wrong with it.  Ref blew and ran off allowing the Sunderland player to do what he likes. He kicked it back towards the Goalkeeper...and rest is history now!

[Dave Cooper please]

Looks like a fucked up back pass to me.

[junxs]

Look OK to me too.
I do wander though if that was at the other end then would Mr Attwell have allowed it?

[john e]

i hate Liverpool so when i watched the clip provided i was really hoping that it was going to make Livepool look like right cheating gits
but it doesnt,  the Sunderland player dropped a massive clanger and was punished.

the sportmanship issue for me is when players cheat to gain an advantage, not when playing the game within the rules

[lovejoy]

i hate Liverpool so when i watched the clip provided i was really hoping that it was going to make Livepool look like right cheating gits
but it doesnt,  the Sunderland player dropped a massive clanger and was punished.

the sportmanship issue for me is when players cheat to gain an advantage, not when playing the game within the rules

You don't see what they did as bad sportsmanship?!

[KRS]

How is scoring from that a blatant error on behalf of Sunderland bad sportsmanship?

Bad sportsmanship is playing on when an opposition player is down injured or not throwing the ball back if a team kicked the ball into touch for your injured player to receive treatment. Intercepting a poor back pass to the keeper once the ball is active and in play is not bad sportsmanship.

I'm yet to see full clear coverage but from what I've seen Sunderland only have their players to be blame.

[john e]

i hate Liverpool so when i watched the clip provided i was really hoping that it was going to make Livepool look like right cheating gits
but it doesnt,  the Sunderland player dropped a massive clanger and was punished.

the sportmanship issue for me is when players cheat to gain an advantage, not when playing the game within the rules

You don't see what they did as bad sportsmanship?!

no, because the defender made a mistake, he was punished for it, he lost concentration and cost his side a goal, harsh maybe but well within the rules,

if you can remember a game at Arsenal against Shef Utd, Utd were expecting the ball to be played back to the goalie and Arsenal went and scored from it,
 now that was bad sportmanship, but the game should never have been replayed because it was within the rules of the game, just bad sportmanship from Arsenal,

in this instance the defender has slipped up, and thats what happens when you take your eye of the ball, you get punished, which is what happened here

notice Steve Bruce was involved in both incidents, unlucky eh...

[lovejoy]

I think the defender was passing the ball back to the goalie to take the free kick not just underhitting a pass to the goalie which Torres intercepted.