Quote from: Can Carew Be Bothered!?!? on September 20, 2010, 12:13:35 PMI know why people don't like him, but he seems to be being put in the same brackets as DOL, which seems very bizarre considering how well he did for us.That's mainly because of the manner and timing of his departure.
I know why people don't like him, but he seems to be being put in the same brackets as DOL, which seems very bizarre considering how well he did for us.
For someone who had three 6th place finishes in a row and a Cup Final in his last, he's getting an awful lot of grief.
I was willing to give him extra time on the premise that we’d move on from 6th. 6th isn’t bad, but it’s no achievement. It’s invariably where we’ve been for 20 odd years. The fact he bottled it and walked out means that I cannot factor in any premise of advancement under him, because he didn’t want the opportunity to try and finish what he started. He got us to 6th, spent a huge amount to do it and we still haven't won a pot since 1996. The fact some still defend him is unsurprising. He wasn’t good enough, sad really as we all hoped he would be.
I’m not re-writing history, so clamber back into your pram. We have as many second placed finishes as 16th finishes, tot them all up since we were promoted and you’ll like as not get a figure of 5, 6 or 7. There is also the perception that it seems to me like we’ve been 6th for the past hundred years.The manager did well, reversed the years of decline we’d suffered under O’Leary, spent a fortune and built a platform to deliver. But he never did and we still have gone over a decade without winning a trophy. That’s how history will judge him. I look forward to a few weeks time when you’re in as much love with Ged as you currently still are with O’Neill.
Yes and only four clubs have a better average. By points or by finishes, we've been here forever and it is no achievement. The 1930s and the 2000s were bleak and shamefully barren years for Aston Villa, lets hope the current set up can deliver a tonic to alleviate the pain.
Yes, on the surface he's dropped us in it but to pretend that we hadn't made real progress and that last season wasn't our best in years is just fucking bollocks.
Quote from: Ads on September 20, 2010, 02:12:15 PMI’m not re-writing history, so clamber back into your pram. We have as many second placed finishes as 16th finishes, tot them all up since we were promoted and you’ll like as not get a figure of 5, 6 or 7. There is also the perception that it seems to me like we’ve been 6th for the past hundred years.The manager did well, reversed the years of decline we’d suffered under O’Leary, spent a fortune and built a platform to deliver. But he never did and we still have gone over a decade without winning a trophy. That’s how history will judge him. I look forward to a few weeks time when you’re in as much love with Ged as you currently still are with O’Neill. "In love" - that's the sort of childish drivel we've had to put up with from nash and Overall in recent times, I thought you had a bit more to you. I thought he was doing a good job, do you want me to pretend I didn't just to suit the prevailing mood?As for Houllier, I'm optimistic that he can continue the good work and am particulary pleased with the staff he has put together which, on paper, has an exciting feel to it.
Quote from: Chris Smith on September 20, 2010, 02:05:28 PMYes, on the surface he's dropped us in it but to pretend that we hadn't made real progress and that last season wasn't our best in years is just fucking bollocks.Sorry to intrude on your special dream again, and not wishing to rewrite history, could you please justify the "on the surface " comment please.Feel free to call me silly names if you must.