Quote from: stevenjos on September 03, 2010, 02:07:07 PMQuote from: Villadawg on September 03, 2010, 01:41:05 PMQuote from: stevenjos on September 03, 2010, 01:37:13 PMQuote from: Villadawg on September 03, 2010, 01:33:04 PM...Has there been a time when you were happy with the board/manager/players at the club? When you didn't define your support in terms of opposition to someone at Villa?Back in the mid 90's id guess, but even then you knew doug was well doug... Early in MONS appointment before it became obvious he was tactically inept as well. Well after 15 years of that, wouldn't you be happier to think I'll let the board appoint the manager, the manager pick the players and for the next 12 months I'll just define my relationship with the club as someone who just supports?unfortunately I can see these faults that most claret tinted spectacle wearers seem unable to, and if i dont like them i dont have to like them, infact i say its detrimental and timewasting to just "accept" things and support blindly.How can you cheer on a team with habib beye been done all night at left back and the manager has decided not to put warnock on the bench? how can you roar when your playing a striker who doesnt score. how can you get excited by "qualifying for europe" when you know the manager doesnt give a damn and will play kids when we should get as many away goals as possible? I want ambition in my team and with Mon and Mon mk2 (kmac) you dont get this, hell... kmac didnt have the ambition to go try for full time for 2+weeks. I support by wanting the best and voicing my opinions on how to change these as soon as possible. Other people Support by paying hundreds of pounds a year to cheer the team on. Ultimately myself and person who goes have no say whatsoever in what goes on. Me on here saying i dislike MON2 backing up his mate, will make no difference, it will just get it off my chest. Joe Bloggs coming on here and saying "cheer the team for 90 minutes" will make no difference, it will just get it off his chest. We are but fans, its the paid employees who make the difference. It money that drives 99% of players and managers on, not stevenjos's opinion on a internet forum. im just getting it off my chest, just like you are by asking for blind support. If the board appoint someone who comes in and plays attractive football and people in position then of course i'll give them a chance* QuoteHave you ever been wrong?yeah i thought MON was a good manager for 2 years! * = unless they like Heskey and then they are obviously insane."I support by wanting the best and voicing my opinions on how to change these as soon as possible"Are you sure you're not simply a critic of Aston Villa FC, rather than a supporter of the club?
Quote from: Villadawg on September 03, 2010, 01:41:05 PMQuote from: stevenjos on September 03, 2010, 01:37:13 PMQuote from: Villadawg on September 03, 2010, 01:33:04 PM...Has there been a time when you were happy with the board/manager/players at the club? When you didn't define your support in terms of opposition to someone at Villa?Back in the mid 90's id guess, but even then you knew doug was well doug... Early in MONS appointment before it became obvious he was tactically inept as well. Well after 15 years of that, wouldn't you be happier to think I'll let the board appoint the manager, the manager pick the players and for the next 12 months I'll just define my relationship with the club as someone who just supports?unfortunately I can see these faults that most claret tinted spectacle wearers seem unable to, and if i dont like them i dont have to like them, infact i say its detrimental and timewasting to just "accept" things and support blindly.How can you cheer on a team with habib beye been done all night at left back and the manager has decided not to put warnock on the bench? how can you roar when your playing a striker who doesnt score. how can you get excited by "qualifying for europe" when you know the manager doesnt give a damn and will play kids when we should get as many away goals as possible? I want ambition in my team and with Mon and Mon mk2 (kmac) you dont get this, hell... kmac didnt have the ambition to go try for full time for 2+weeks. I support by wanting the best and voicing my opinions on how to change these as soon as possible. Other people Support by paying hundreds of pounds a year to cheer the team on. Ultimately myself and person who goes have no say whatsoever in what goes on. Me on here saying i dislike MON2 backing up his mate, will make no difference, it will just get it off my chest. Joe Bloggs coming on here and saying "cheer the team for 90 minutes" will make no difference, it will just get it off his chest. We are but fans, its the paid employees who make the difference. It money that drives 99% of players and managers on, not stevenjos's opinion on a internet forum. im just getting it off my chest, just like you are by asking for blind support. If the board appoint someone who comes in and plays attractive football and people in position then of course i'll give them a chance* QuoteHave you ever been wrong?yeah i thought MON was a good manager for 2 years! * = unless they like Heskey and then they are obviously insane.
Quote from: stevenjos on September 03, 2010, 01:37:13 PMQuote from: Villadawg on September 03, 2010, 01:33:04 PM...Has there been a time when you were happy with the board/manager/players at the club? When you didn't define your support in terms of opposition to someone at Villa?Back in the mid 90's id guess, but even then you knew doug was well doug... Early in MONS appointment before it became obvious he was tactically inept as well. Well after 15 years of that, wouldn't you be happier to think I'll let the board appoint the manager, the manager pick the players and for the next 12 months I'll just define my relationship with the club as someone who just supports?
Quote from: Villadawg on September 03, 2010, 01:33:04 PM...Has there been a time when you were happy with the board/manager/players at the club? When you didn't define your support in terms of opposition to someone at Villa?Back in the mid 90's id guess, but even then you knew doug was well doug... Early in MONS appointment before it became obvious he was tactically inept as well.
...Has there been a time when you were happy with the board/manager/players at the club? When you didn't define your support in terms of opposition to someone at Villa?
Have you ever been wrong?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 03, 2010, 12:15:55 PMQuote from: jonzy85 on September 03, 2010, 12:02:22 PMI think people have to remember, that by leaving when he did, MON did himself no favours. He would be entitled to zero pay-off. No jobs around at the moment. Most likely wont be until next summer.Now I'm sure he is not short a few bob, but this idea of his grand master plan to f*** up Villa is ridiculous.Rightly or wrongly, he left because he didnt feel he could work with the board/owner/Faulkner, the reasons for which obviously came to a head around that weekend.Sure, be angry/disappointed for not sticking out the season with the squad he had built...but the conspiracy theories are laughable and based on nothing.Moon landing in a Hollywood basement...now we're talking!There's plenty of work for Martin O'Neill between now and next May, and I'm not laughing at any supposed 'conspiracy theory'. What are you basing it on then.....besides this hatred that you have had for from well before he left?
Quote from: jonzy85 on September 03, 2010, 12:02:22 PMI think people have to remember, that by leaving when he did, MON did himself no favours. He would be entitled to zero pay-off. No jobs around at the moment. Most likely wont be until next summer.Now I'm sure he is not short a few bob, but this idea of his grand master plan to f*** up Villa is ridiculous.Rightly or wrongly, he left because he didnt feel he could work with the board/owner/Faulkner, the reasons for which obviously came to a head around that weekend.Sure, be angry/disappointed for not sticking out the season with the squad he had built...but the conspiracy theories are laughable and based on nothing.Moon landing in a Hollywood basement...now we're talking!There's plenty of work for Martin O'Neill between now and next May, and I'm not laughing at any supposed 'conspiracy theory'.
I think people have to remember, that by leaving when he did, MON did himself no favours. He would be entitled to zero pay-off. No jobs around at the moment. Most likely wont be until next summer.Now I'm sure he is not short a few bob, but this idea of his grand master plan to f*** up Villa is ridiculous.Rightly or wrongly, he left because he didnt feel he could work with the board/owner/Faulkner, the reasons for which obviously came to a head around that weekend.Sure, be angry/disappointed for not sticking out the season with the squad he had built...but the conspiracy theories are laughable and based on nothing.Moon landing in a Hollywood basement...now we're talking!
Good to see K-Mac defending a hard working and succesful manager. Perhaps some on herecould show some respect and stop sniping at someone who did his best for the club
My opinion is the same as K Mac, i don't believe MON walked away with the intention of maximising the amount of disruption caused to the club, and as K Mac has added, if that was the case then MON would not have passed on the "scouting" report would he.