Sunday Supplement Today

[BannedUserIAT]

The otehr difference with yesterday was it not being us on the break that got the goals. Even after going 1 up we did not resort to playing on the counter which was our 1 tactic under O'Neill. The Blues 5-1 is the only time I recall us dominating quite as much in a game.We have certainly not passed and moved, and crossed, and interchanged as well as yesterday since we mauled Blues. MON had tactically become so narrow minded with his style there was not freedom. In his first 2 years he was more flexible.

Anyone mentioning Bolton 5-1 last season is frankly mad. The team selection was forced on MON and it was almost a performance in spite of him.

Passing it about to "Ole" was fun, too. It's been a while since we've had a number of gears to choose from.

[midnite]

Sunday supplement are arse licking MON. They really haven't got a clue what there on about!

I'm watching that, too. Dismal, dismal 'reporting'.

Pretty jaw-dropping stuff from Oliver Holt, Paul Hayward and John Richardson.

On the one hand they were dismissive of the General's remark that O'Neill thought he was bigger than the club, and then on the other hand ramming home their opinion that O'Neill was the club's biggest asset, that he did a fantastic job, that there is no way we'll finish 6th without him and that following him is now the worst job in football.

The fact that Milner and Young are now worth more than we paid for them was offered as a justification for the £120M spend.  No mention of the millions wanked away on highly paid players whom he never selected.

Richardson also trotted out the line that O'Neill has the touch of Clough about him, citing Clough as a manager who upset players but won trophies, without mentioning the fact that O'Neill won nothing for us.

Having previously lauded Lerner to the heavens for being an enlightened owner, he was strongly criticised for having lost his nerve, tightened the purse strings too far, and in doing so lost the best thing Villa had going for them.

A load of old bollocks from the pro-O'Neill lobbyists (i.e. the press).

I'm so glad i'm not the only one. Oliver Holt was completely embaressed himself today, I don't know if he had a run in with the General at some point in the past, but huge disrespect to the general and the club. No not even be bothered to call him by his proper name to and ask who is he anyway was disgusting!

And to say the club has show little respect for O'Neil.... Who the f**k walk out 5 days before the start of the season?
I think i was O'Neil who has show little respect for us as a club and a set of fans. You just dont do things that way.
Also to say it's just the same team o'neil usually field shows to me i dont think they even saw the game before talking about it. Petrov actually moved above the halfway line, we say Clarke, Albrighton, NRC, Luck Young, Weimann, bannan. These plays didnt feature under O'Neil at all!!

It was a great game, full of promise, full of DEPTH, one think O'neil said we didn't have. The youth coming through is very exciting, as we al know it is but for some reason O'Neil just didnt want to use it.

Just show's the myth O'Neil has about himself and the way that if you arse lick the press they'll love you forever, not matter what your faults are

[dave.woodhall]

Sicne the day O'Neill arrived at Villa his buddies in the national media have been waiting for this. They could never understand why he joined us when he, one of their circuit, could have gone to one of their clubs. He was always too good for us, we were never grateful, and allowing him to leave without begging him to stay is the act of supreme ingratitude.

[taylorsworkrate]

I do think Oliver Holt has an unbelievably punchable face.

My bruised knuckles and cracked television screen can certainly vouch for that.

[Chris Smith]

Oliver Holt was completely embaressed himself today

I really dislike him and having seen him on the programme a couple of times before I don't think he's popular with other journalists either. They're entitled to their opinions just like anyone else but the Colonel Tom thing was just pathetic.

[midnite]

They call us villa fans fickle. Aren't these the same set of jurno's that last season where appauding Lerner and the board for the model way in which a foreign owner should run a football club.

The same set of jurno's who now say he dosnt have a clue, naive and showing disrespect.

That programme was laughable today. They were all just pissed off that we had a good game, played great without a manager and it hasn't blown up in our faces.

Saying villa must be one of the worst jobs to take now after oneil is pathetic. Any potential manager would have watched yesterday and got very excited at what he has gotto work with.

As my one mate screamed in the 78th minute down at villa park
"this is amazing to watch. It's IT'S football porn!"

[Rancid custard]

Must be a tough life, being paid to spout bollocks about football. I long for the day when football reporting is done with nothing but fact and statistic.

[dave.woodhall]

It was said on here that David O'Leary had the attitude that if it wasn't for him we'd have been in the Conference, and put the point over at every opportunity. I get the impression that O'Neill thought exactly the same, but did it more subtly and allowed his media contacts to do the work for him.

The ironic thing is that this time last week those reporters wouldn't have known the first thing about Marc Albrighton, the general or what Kevin MacDonald's been up to for the past eleven years.

[freakypete]

the pundits on the tv who say martin oneils a goog manager havnt been seing the villa every home game for the past 18 months,totally boreing tactically neive

[Jimbo]

It was said on here that David O'Leary had the attitude that if it wasn't for him we'd have been in the Conference, and put the point over at every opportunity. I get the impression that O'Neill thought exactly the same, but did it more subtly and allowed his media contacts to do the work for him.

I've said it elsewhere that DOL and MON were in fact very similar in their regard for Villa. They were both egocentric to the point of obnoxiousness, except MON had a little more intelligence about him, perhaps a little more charm (call it a self-cultivated air of the enigmatic eccentric 'genius'). The difference was that DOL really didn't have much backing, financial or otherwise, from the then decrepit and floundering Doug Ellis; yet MON had all the backing and freedom he could possibly want from Randy, right up until his (MON's) repeated mistakes and pig-headed stubbornness began to reveal cracks in his media-engineered veneer. If MON had suffered a quarter of the crap DOL had to deal with, the rattle, dummy and teddy bear would have been jettisoned from that pram a long time ago. 

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Yep caught a bit of that.  Nearly made me want to puke my breakfast up.

Two seasons of dire football at home.  O'Neill leaves.  Inspired display of inventive, clever football ensues.  You'd think the thick bastards would notice that, but no.

As I said on the match thread we did the same to Burnley, Hull and Bolton last season. If we start playing like that every week then you'll have a point but at the moment it's one result against a shit side.

Very one-sided opinions I thought from the journalists and Holt was particularly disrespectful but equally I'm not buying the party line that they want us to believe of Randy good, Martin bad.

Did we bollocks. We've not played like that under O'Neill.

Of course we have. Plenty of times. You choose to not remember it though because you don't like MON.

Stop talking bollocks, I was an O'Neill fan.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Yep caught a bit of that.  Nearly made me want to puke my breakfast up.

Two seasons of dire football at home.  O'Neill leaves.  Inspired display of inventive, clever football ensues.  You'd think the thick bastards would notice that, but no.

As I said on the match thread we did the same to Burnley, Hull and Bolton last season. If we start playing like that every week then you'll have a point but at the moment it's one result against a shit side.

Very one-sided opinions I thought from the journalists and Holt was particularly disrespectful but equally I'm not buying the party line that they want us to believe of Randy good, Martin bad.

Did we bollocks. We've not played like that under O'Neill.

Of course we have. Plenty of times. You choose to not remember it though because you don't like MON.

Stop talking bollocks, I was an O'Neill fan.

Well then you can't have got to many games.

[Ads]

Yep caught a bit of that.  Nearly made me want to puke my breakfast up.

Two seasons of dire football at home.  O'Neill leaves.  Inspired display of inventive, clever football ensues.  You'd think the thick bastards would notice that, but no.

As I said on the match thread we did the same to Burnley, Hull and Bolton last season. If we start playing like that every week then you'll have a point but at the moment it's one result against a shit side.

Very one-sided opinions I thought from the journalists and Holt was particularly disrespectful but equally I'm not buying the party line that they want us to believe of Randy good, Martin bad.

Did we bollocks. We've not played like that under O'Neill.

Of course we have. Plenty of times. You choose to not remember it though because you don't like MON.

Stop talking bollocks, I was an O'Neill fan.

Well then you can't have got to many games.

The only games I have not been present at under O’Neill were Litex away, the Icelandic side away and Moscow away, so try again.

[paul_e]

Did we bollocks. We've not played like that under O'Neill.

That's not quite right.  There's a clip that's been seen on this site (well the previous incarnation), I think Legion posts it, where we played some brilliant pass and move stuff against Bolton(? I think) from a couple of years ago, and with full access to an archive of Villa footage from the last 4 years I guarantee you could put together a DVD that makes us look like world beaters.  It was those little glimpses of brilliance that kept me supporting mon, I was hoping that he'd seen them and was trying to build a structure where we could bring that to the fore.

Watching yesterday makes me think that maybe those sparks were the players breaking out of their shackles rather than anything else however.

[freakypete]

we mustnt forget ,with all these sunday supplements are london anti villa anyway,against west ham the players showed they are glad hes gone