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Author Topic: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam  (Read 14556 times)

Offline ROBBO

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2010, 04:55:09 AM »
Never seen Dave, i have imagined him as a younger Fagin type with a long slightly soiled raincoat, long staggly hair and a five day beard. Am i close?

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2010, 08:11:39 AM »
Never seen Dave, i have imagined him as a younger Fagin type with a long slightly soiled raincoat, long staggly hair and a five day beard. Am i close?

Thats how he looked in 1980's..........before he made his dosh.

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2010, 08:20:14 AM »

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2010, 09:34:05 AM »
Randy: Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
   For loan oft loses both itself and friend,   
   And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry. (Hamlet, Act 1, Scene III)

Mon:    Good night, good night! Parting is such sweet sorrow,
   That I shall say goodnight till it be morrow. (Romeo and Juliet, Act II, Scene II)

Randy (Aside): The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. (Henry VI, Act IV, Scene ii) 

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2010, 09:38:26 AM »
Omar Khayyam programme on BBC4 at 2.30am tomorrow. It's rather good. A bit of an arse to subtitle though, as I discovered.


Why do some subtitles get missed off, even though the programme is old? e.g. "I've got an annoying pain in my back" becomes "I've got a pain in my back"

Offline richard moore

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2010, 10:03:44 AM »
Never seen Dave, i have imagined him as a younger Fagin type with a long slightly soiled raincoat, long staggly hair and a five day beard. Am i close?

He is actually a very nice chap despite appearances ;-)

Anyway, my AVFC beach towel is still 'flying' proudly around the poolsides of the Costa Blanca!

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2010, 11:32:23 AM »
Omar Khayyam programme on BBC4 at 2.30am tomorrow. It's rather good. A bit of an arse to subtitle though, as I discovered.


Why do some subtitles get missed off, even though the programme is old? e.g. "I've got an annoying pain in my back" becomes "I've got a pain in my back"

Monkey was good for that. You'd see his lips moving for 20 seconds yet only get "OK. Let's go."

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2010, 12:14:26 PM »
Omar Khayyam programme on BBC4 at 2.30am tomorrow. It's rather good. A bit of an arse to subtitle though, as I discovered.

Why do some subtitles get missed off, even though the programme is old? e.g. "I've got an annoying pain in my back" becomes "I've got a pain in my back"


The boring answer is that back in the day, the policy was to edit the hell out of the subtitles in order to make them readable in the time they were on the screen. A few years ago (maybe about 2000?) that was relaxed and we typically keep most of the original text in as most people can read them all no problems, though occasionally sometimes we have to brutally edit - for example during a blazing argument in EastEnders where both people are talking really quickly.

However if an old programme is repeated, we use the old subtitle file from back then, and so it's one of the harshly edited ones.

I bet you wish you'd never asked now.

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2010, 01:33:59 PM »
From Omar Khayyam to Eastenders....that's the problem with modern society, we all retreat to the lowest common denominator...bloody Eastenders.

    In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
    A stately pleasure-dome decree:
    Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
    Through caverns measureless to man
    Down to a sunless sea.
    So twice five miles of fertile ground
    With walls and towers were girdled round:
    And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,
    Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree;
    And here were forests ancient as the hills,
    Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.

    But oh! that deep romantic chasm which slanted
    Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover!
    A savage place! as holy and enchanted
    As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted
    By woman wailing for her demon-lover!
    And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,
    As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,
    A mighty fountain momently was forced:
    Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst
    Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,
    Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail:
    And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever
    It flung up momently the sacred river.
    Five miles meandering with a mazy motion
    Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,
    Then reached the caverns measureless to man,
    And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean:
    And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far
    Ancestral voices prophesying war!
    The shadow of the dome of pleasure
    Floated midway on the waves;
    Where was heard the mingled measure
    From the fountain and the caves.
    It was a miracle of rare device,
    A sunny pleasure-dome with caves of ice!

    A damsel with a dulcimer
    In a vision once I saw:
    It was an Abyssinian maid,
    And on her dulcimer she played,
    Singing of Mount Abora.
    Could I revive within me
    Her symphony and song,
    To such a deep delight 'twould win me,
    That with music loud and long,
    I would build that dome in air,
    That sunny dome! those caves of ice!
    And all who heard should see them there,
    And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
    His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
    Weave a circle round him thrice,
    And close your eyes with holy dread,
    For he on honey-dew hath fed,
    And drunk the milk of Paradise.

Kubla Khan, Scoleridge taylor.  And you won't get the like of that on East-bloody-enders.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2010, 01:36:41 PM by DrGonzo »

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2010, 01:36:38 PM »
I thought this was the inside scoop on who our new manager was.

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2010, 01:50:40 PM »
There was a wee man from Killrea
Who left with a flea in his ear
He wanted McGeady
His boss thought him greedy.
Coz Heskey's vet bill's in arrears.

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2010, 03:50:46 PM »
I thought this was the inside scoop on who our new manager was.

I thought it might be news about a new investor.

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2010, 03:54:15 PM »
Either accidentally or knowing Dave deliberately appropriate for the current state of affairs is that the Moving Finger did write but nobody did or can fathom the meaning of what was writ.   Thus the layering of the poem tells us that that which was written cannot be shortened or erased nobody knew what it meant in the first place.

Randy's statement comes very close to something similar, saying much but saying nothing.

I prefer rather more robust verse to illustrate the futility of uncertain knowledge like

A maths student of Trinity Hall

Had a hemispherical ball

He worked out that the weight

Of his penis, times eight

Was three fifths times five eighths of fuck all.



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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2010, 04:01:10 PM »
Ich denke dein,
    wenn mir der Sonne schimmer
Vom Meere strahlt;
Ich denke dein,
    wenn sich des Mondes Flimmer
In Quellen malt.
 
Ich sehe dich,
    wenn auf dem fernen Wege
Der Staub sich hebt,
In tiefer Nacht,
    wenn auf dem schmalen Stege
Der Wandrer bebt.
 
Ich höre dich,
    wenn dort mit dumpfem Rauschen
Die Welle steigt.
Im stillen Haine geh' ich oft zu lauschen,
Wenn alles schweigt.
 
Ich bin bei dir,
    du seist auch noch so ferne,
Du bist mir nah!
Die Sonne sinkt,
    bald leuchten mir die Sterne.
O wärst du da!
 
J.W. von Goethe

Offline DrGonzo

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Re: The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2010, 06:38:29 PM »
How long before the mods kick this to off topic?? I reckon we are sailing close to the wind...poetry on a football site....we'll be a laughing stock. ::)

 


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