Shall we just say that all fifteen at our table tonight dislike O'Neill. A small percentage cheered him. He is not popular.
In any case, these things will play themselves out this season in my opinion. If the results aren't there, or the home gates begin to slide, then the writing will be on the wall. I happen to think this is a massive year for MON, and if certain things don't improve in certain areas then I think change is inevitable.
Quote from: "toronto villa"Quote from: "dave.woodhall"It's also from someone who is out in Portugal, so has been listening to supporters for the past few days.what was their reaction the day before I wonder? I'm not saying there's not dissent, but it's hardly as if the fans who travelled on a pre-season piss up to Portugal represent any balanced sample on the day of defeat in a friendly versus a Champions League team that just won their league again.Again? They've won their league twice in the last 15 years.I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the opinion of fans that have been following the Villa home and away for the last 40 years.
Quote from: "dave.woodhall"It's also from someone who is out in Portugal, so has been listening to supporters for the past few days.what was their reaction the day before I wonder? I'm not saying there's not dissent, but it's hardly as if the fans who travelled on a pre-season piss up to Portugal represent any balanced sample on the day of defeat in a friendly versus a Champions League team that just won their league again.
It's also from someone who is out in Portugal, so has been listening to supporters for the past few days.
The "do you go?" card is often played, and I think it's nonsense, especially for a pre-season friendly. But you have to accept that there is nowhere in the world at this moment where so many hardcore Villa supporters are gathered as there is in Portugal, and if a lot of them are disenchanted with the manager that has to be taken into account as a worrying sign.
Quote from: "Ads"Quote from: "toronto villa"I'm not dismissing their "importance" for being able to travel to a pre-season friendly. I certainly didn't think you'd ever go down the "better fan" road, Dave because that's what it appears you're suggesting. He’s not, he’s being ironical innit. But I don’t think it really applies to you, as I doubt you’ve ever used it, with respect, given you obviously not being a tit and also living in Toronto. Although if you do follow The Villa home and away I will say you’re in the top one of dedicated Villa fans.I have tremendous respect for those fans who happen to travel with the club. I used to do it myself when I lived in Birmingham. I don't think for second though that their views or opinions are any more important than those who do not, or cannot travel. Which is why I'll contest the "high percentage" comment.In any case, these things will play themselves out this season in my opinion. If the results aren't there, or the home gates begin to slide, then the writing will be on the wall. I happen to think this is a massive year for MON, and if certain things don't improve in certain areas then I think change is inevitable.
Quote from: "toronto villa"I'm not dismissing their "importance" for being able to travel to a pre-season friendly. I certainly didn't think you'd ever go down the "better fan" road, Dave because that's what it appears you're suggesting. He’s not, he’s being ironical innit. But I don’t think it really applies to you, as I doubt you’ve ever used it, with respect, given you obviously not being a tit and also living in Toronto. Although if you do follow The Villa home and away I will say you’re in the top one of dedicated Villa fans.
I'm not dismissing their "importance" for being able to travel to a pre-season friendly. I certainly didn't think you'd ever go down the "better fan" road, Dave because that's what it appears you're suggesting.
Quote from: "toronto villa"In any case, these things will play themselves out this season in my opinion. If the results aren't there, or the home gates begin to slide, then the writing will be on the wall. I happen to think this is a massive year for MON, and if certain things don't improve in certain areas then I think change is inevitable.Agreed but I think he'll be gone by the end of the season. It's not a question of 'if' but 'when'.
Sorry TV, it's just the way I read it. Fortunately Benfica have been crap for so long, using the word "again" is almost like saying Accrington Stanley have won the league again. Well not quite but almost.How you go about getting a balanced sample is anybody's guess.
Quote from: "toronto villa"Quote from: "Ads"Quote from: "toronto villa"I'm not dismissing their "importance" for being able to travel to a pre-season friendly. I certainly didn't think you'd ever go down the "better fan" road, Dave because that's what it appears you're suggesting. He’s not, he’s being ironical innit. But I don’t think it really applies to you, as I doubt you’ve ever used it, with respect, given you obviously not being a tit and also living in Toronto. Although if you do follow The Villa home and away I will say you’re in the top one of dedicated Villa fans.I have tremendous respect for those fans who happen to travel with the club. I used to do it myself when I lived in Birmingham. I don't think for second though that their views or opinions are any more important than those who do not, or cannot travel. Which is why I'll contest the "high percentage" comment.In any case, these things will play themselves out this season in my opinion. If the results aren't there, or the home gates begin to slide, then the writing will be on the wall. I happen to think this is a massive year for MON, and if certain things don't improve in certain areas then I think change is inevitable.Just for the record, I did not say that my opinions were more important than anyone elses, regardless of how the cantankerous VillaDawg sees it.