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Online dave.woodhall

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #930 on: September 26, 2010, 09:06:13 PM »
Why do you have such a problem with West Brom... they're just another crap team to me who yo-yo between the Premier League and Championship. Most Villa fans don't even have a problem with West Brom, we don't even have a proper rivalry with them like we do with small heath where there is genuine nastiness between both sets of fans. Out of all the teams in the West Mids, West Brom are the only team I don't really have a problem with... Stoke, blose and the Dogheads are far more dislikable.

You can keep up this nonsense about not praising West Brom for beating Arsenal as much as you like, it doesn't change the fact they're a promoted team and got a fantastic result yesterday and deserve the praise they get. Even Wenger praised them quite highly...

And who exactly are you to tell me who I should and shouldn't like? Actually, we do have a 'proper' rivalry with them and it goes back about a hundred years longer than the one we have with Blues.

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #931 on: September 26, 2010, 09:28:19 PM »
Jesus, didn't realise West Brom were level on points with us! Until yesterday it had slipped my mind they were Premier League to be honest. Begrudgingly must admit I like Di Matteo, and I think he's a cracking boss in the making. He was quality player too, must be said.

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #932 on: September 26, 2010, 10:05:55 PM »
Why do you have such a problem with West Brom... they're just another crap team to me who yo-yo between the Premier League and Championship. Most Villa fans don't even have a problem with West Brom, we don't even have a proper rivalry with them like we do with small heath where there is genuine nastiness between both sets of fans. Out of all the teams in the West Mids, West Brom are the only team I don't really have a problem with... Stoke, blose and the Dogheads are far more dislikable.

You can keep up this nonsense about not praising West Brom for beating Arsenal as much as you like, it doesn't change the fact they're a promoted team and got a fantastic result yesterday and deserve the praise they get. Even Wenger praised them quite highly...

And who exactly are you to tell me who I should and shouldn't like? Actually, we do have a 'proper' rivalry with them and it goes back about a hundred years longer than the one we have with Blues.
Err, I did not once tell you who you should and shouldn't like... all I said was that Villa fans assoicate their local rival with small heath in general... West Brom's main rival is Wolves and that's their biggest derby, so how can Villa's 'proper rival' be West Brom lolwut?

In North B'ham (some of my family is from Great Barr btw) Villa fans tend to have more of a dislike towards West Brom than the rest of Villa fans from Birmingham like pauliewalnuts said, ask any West Brom fan who their main local rival is and they will say Wolves, just like if you asked any Villa fan the same question they'd responsed with small heath.

Whether you like West Brom or not, I don't really care, to say they don't deserve any praise after their fantastic win yesterday is a bit silly really. If Birmingham City beat any of the top 4 away last season I would of given them credit too regardless that they're our local rivals.

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #933 on: September 26, 2010, 10:17:18 PM »
Err, I did not once tell you who you should and shouldn't like... all I said was that Villa fans assoicate their local rival with small heath in general... West Brom's main rival is Wolves and that's their biggest derby, so how can Villa's 'proper rival' be West Brom lolwut?

In North B'ham (some of my family is from Great Barr btw) Villa fans tend to have more of a dislike towards West Brom than the rest of Villa fans from Birmingham like pauliewalnuts said, ask any West Brom fan who their main local rival is and they will say Wolves, just like if you asked any Villa fan the same question they'd responsed with small heath.

Whether you like West Brom or not, I don't really care, to say they don't deserve any praise after their fantastic win yesterday is a bit silly really. If Birmingham City beat any of the top 4 away last season I would of given them credit too regardless that they're our local rivals.


You've spent the last 24 hours telling me how I should behave, and now you've moved on to telling us what another two sets of supporters think. Which you're wrong about, incidentally. And on that subject "if you asked any Villa fan the same question they'd responsed with small heath." I wouldn't, and neither would a lot of others. Does that mean we're not Villa fans? And what the fuck does lolwut mean?
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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #934 on: September 26, 2010, 10:24:19 PM »
I've just googled that but I'm non the wiser.

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #935 on: September 26, 2010, 10:26:42 PM »
I would guess that it's about a 50/50 split between us and the dogheads who smethwick fans hate the most. Most around 40+ will probably go with us, most under will probably go with the dogheads.
The shift from us being their main rival is simply due to a generation of them never getting the chance to lose to us.

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #936 on: September 26, 2010, 10:29:02 PM »
I would guess that it's about a 50/50 split between us and the dogheads who smethwick fans hate the most. Most around 40+ will probably go with us, most under will probably go with the dogheads.
The shift from us being their main rival is simply due to a generation of them never getting the chance to lose to us.

It's also a population shift thing. When their supporters came from Handsworth/Smethwick/West Brom it was us. Now it's more Wednesbury/Tipton/Dudley it's more Wolves. But the ones who hate us, hate us every bit as much as Blues do. There's also an element of Sky 'have your thinking done for you' in it. It is decreed that each club has one rival, and no other.
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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #937 on: September 26, 2010, 11:12:01 PM »
@Dave; I don't wanna argue with you because I enjoy reading Heroes and Villans but the general concensus among Villa fans is that we consider Birmingham City our main local rivals... like it or not, I don't know any of my Villa supporting mates who put West Brom before Birmingham in terms of rivalry, even my father who grew up in the generation where West Brom were once considered our main local rival has a big dislike for small heath, I don't think I've actually ever heard talk him in an abusive way towards West Brom. And yes, he also commented yesterday on what a great result it was for West Brom...

A few have already said earlier in this thread that they don't really mind West Brom, but ask them how they feel about Birmingham City...

I'm just gonna leave it at that, sorry if congratulating West Brom on their great win yesterday annoys you so much.
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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #938 on: September 26, 2010, 11:24:51 PM »
@Dave; I don't wanna argue with you because I enjoy reading Heroes and Villans but the general concensus among Villa fans is that we consider Birmingham City our main local rivals... like it or not, I don't know any of my Villa supporting mates who put West Brom before Birmingham in terms of rivalry, even my father who grew up in the generation where West Brom were once considered our main local rival has a big dislike for small heath, I don't think I've actually ever heard talk in an abusive way towards West Brom. And yes, he also commented yesterday on what a great result it was for West Brom...

A few have already said earlier in this thread that they don't really mind West Brom, but ask them how they feel about Birmingham City...

Try asking Villa supporters who live over that way, or who remember the seventies. Then again, it's about time this got another airing....

The fact that every time the Hawthorns gets near capacity they can't cope, the Alex Cropley game when they set out for ninety minutes to kick anything in claret and blue, Alan Baker, John Woodward, Ray Graydon, their sanctimonious holier-than-thou we're only a little team and we're going to enjoy ourselves everybody likes us attitude, the fact that their most famous supporter made a career out of humiliating their most famous ex-player - a man who it is now known was suffering from a degenerative brain disease, their absolute hatred of us (and me or Coops can supply a list of places to pop into before or after the match for anyone who thinks that they're all nice and friendly), the time we beat them 7-2 in a reserve match then in the return a month later they had nine of their first team playing because they couldn't bear losing again, their pretence of being nowhere near Birmingham despite their post code and phone number, their stupid jumping up and down and making twats of themselves in the name of atmosphere, letting the likes of Soccer AM makes fools of them and degrading all football supporters everywhere by implication, still going on about Ronnie Allen and 1959 like it's the most important thing to ever happen in their sad, woebegotten lives and it probably is, not being able to get a drink anywhere near the ground, constant whining of it ay fair and the world's against them, just watch tomorrow how many of them blame the referee for all seventeen of our goals, moaning that the local press are biased against them despite the fact that they've got more supporters in the media than us and Small Heath put together, Adrian Chiles, Skinner again, endlessly complaining that they would have won the league in 1979 if the weather hadn't turned cold in January like it wasn't the same for every other club in the first division, bleating on and on and on about how loyal they are just because their crowds didn't get as low as the Wolves like that makes any difference, having the highest percentage of middle aged fat blokes walking round supermarkets in football shirts of anywhere in the world including Newcastle, having a civic reception for finishing third in the third division, showing Ossie Ardiles what Smethwick looks like from the top of a double decker bus then wondering why he fecked off the next week, every time a player leaves them they always moan he's only gone for the money even when they're swapping Smethwick for Madrid, Willie Johnstone, that bloody stupid bird stuck on the top of the scoreboard, those executive boxes with corrugated iron roofs, playing the Liquidator just like their big bad rivals in the Stadium of Yellow, that stupid metal sheeting at the back of the old away end that meant I missed every goal when we were three up at half time there, having to play in the morning in the FA Cup 1990, the half time message in the second division "Will Villa supporters please move forward, there are still some trying to get in", boasting about giving a policeman brain damage at Villa Park in 1978 but they're still nice & friendly, being surrounded by the bastards in the Witton Lane stand in 1974, never enough buses back down Holyhead Road, being the only local league club to insist on playing Birmingham Senior Cup games at home and thus depriving the local non-league teams of a decent gate, thinking they have a God-given right to park anywhere they like and moaning when they get tickets for parking on double yellow lines, you can bet there'll be more face paint and stupid wigs per supporter than at any other ground in the country and I include Newcastle in that again, the six wankers shouting their gobs off on the bus when I was going back home after the game in 1982, the very quiet one who was left when his five mates got off, the 1887 cup final when they planned to get the train back via Worcester to avoid travelling through Birmingham with the cup, except the cup went straight back to Aston without them ha fucking ha, coming up and saying that they weren't going to spend any money because they wanted to go straight back down and use the parachute payments to get back again, Skinner and Chiles walking up and down Witton Lane looking for camera crews, making out Bryan Robson was a returning hero when they'd hated him ever since he left, forgetting now that they wanted him hung a month after he became manager, the day they stayed up and reckoned everybody in the country loves them because they're such a nice inoffensive club with wonderful fans, having to get coaches to come three miles down Island Road, that fucking sanctimonious Grorty Dick fanzine that used to call us arrogant yet made out that they were such a big club, then had a celebration issue when they beat us in a youth match I kid you not, being the only Villa supporter in a school of 1,600 of the bastards when they didn't care about Wolves, getting a manager sacked because of a low crowd for a pre-season friendly, Alex Cropley again, Eric Clapton and I'm sure UB40 used to say they supported them when they were good, the fucking Albion that is not UB40, having their end named after a city they hate, an evening paper that treats playing Manchester United in the league in the same patronising way that Kidderminster Harriers would get in the FA Cup, Jim Cumbes dropping down two divisions because our crowds were bigger, treating reserve matches as something really big and important, having a shopping centre in the town and gates at their ground named after a player who scored in a cup final and cost England the World Cup, this supposed 'big vlub' making a fuss of winning the third division play-offs, Terry Wills who although he is a very nice man should be told that he does not have to go on every radio station after every match,asking us to play friendlies and still treating our supporters like shit, wanting every manager sacked after three defeats, Bob Taylor, every one of their supporters over fifty was at the ground when they relegated us in 1959 and will talk forever about it but none of them remembers us stopping them winning the league four years earlier, you're not telling me it's a coincidence that Alistair Fucking Brown got a job working for them after his thuggish career was mercifully brought to an end, knowing more about how Bayern Munich should have won the European Cup in 1982 than Bayern Munich do, my irritating little shit of a cousin Luke who used to support Manchester United then got a season ticket up there when they got into the Premier League, including Prisoner 820468 Hughes, L, in a book called Cult Heroes and I bet the family of the bloke he killed have got a better and similar description for him, some knobhead I heard saying all he wanted to do when they went down was come back up win the cup and kick fuck out the Villa then talked about football for ten minutes and never once went off the subject of how much he hates us, I bet that Everton fan they blinded thinks they're lovely, a town centre where the best pub is a Wetherspoon's and the best restaurant is McDonalds, how every time we beat them and there'sa  lot to choose from they always complain that they'd rather lose than play like us like they have a choice, putting reserve teams out in games they're going to lsoe anyway but it's alright for them to do it, every tiem they come up saying they don't intend to spend any money because we're ony a little team and we're doing ever so well to be here in the first place, Tony Mowbray always claiming moral victories...

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #939 on: September 26, 2010, 11:25:12 PM »
To lighten the Albion related mood, I thought Brunt had an excellent game for them yesterday.

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #940 on: September 26, 2010, 11:37:30 PM »
Christ.

I was just thinking earlier that MOTD2 is miles better than MOTD then they do all this quirky shit like wine wasting and people singing the theme tune.

What shite.

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #941 on: September 26, 2010, 11:46:25 PM »
Christ.

I was just thinking earlier that MOTD2 is miles better than MOTD then they do all this quirky shit like wine wasting and people singing the theme tune.

What shite.

I still prefer Goals on Sunday as the best coverage show normally. They do light hearted banter better then most.

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #942 on: September 27, 2010, 02:22:28 AM »
That's all very well Dave but what have the Albion ever done to really upset you?

I might do one of those about Small Heath, but I'm not sure I could ever stop.

As for MOTD2, my dislike of Murray is well documented on here but the rest of the show really is shit. Wasting so much time on pointless skits and old footage of the guests when it could be put to better use showing more of the weekends action. It makes the classic mistake of hugely underestimating the intelligence of the viewer.

And as for the previous nights programme, it was no surprise that Gerrards forearm smash was swiftly dealt with by not being replayed and glibly dismissed by a former Liverpool captain and a man whose career was built on whacking people in the face in order to win the ball.

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #943 on: September 27, 2010, 08:29:00 AM »
lolwut is a term the kids use, it means "lol, what?"

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Re: Other Games - 2010/11 Season
« Reply #944 on: September 27, 2010, 09:42:58 AM »
Why would you be laughing at something if you don't understand what was said?


 


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