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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2010, 05:38:03 PM »
Perhaps it means oldest top division club starting with 'A'?

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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2010, 05:47:05 PM »
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Whilst our and Burnley's kits have always been listed as claret and blue, I remember a time when West Ham's was referred to as maroon and blue.

I'm not sure what the background is behind this, maybe Sendo or somebody on KUMB knows the story but it was certainly listed in the 70's as maroon.


Pretty sure I remember an episode of Till Death Do Us Part where Garnett referred to West Ham as 'claret and blue' that would be pre-70s.

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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2010, 06:09:33 PM »
Arsenal also adopted our magnificent colours for a season during the late 1800's-early 1900's era.
 
Quite a few London clubs have paid homage/sought help from Villa on their journeys to establishment, so Sendo can rest easy. Even Spurs, when a non-league team, asked Villa to help them out with a friendly match, proceeds helping them to kick on in their progression too.  (Unlike other clubs, who had at least some degree of good taste, Spurs took inspiration for their club colours from Preston NE.)

Although some of the facts are slightly out of kilter, the spirit of this FIFA article is spot on - Villa are quite clearly the greatest club in world football.

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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2010, 07:13:51 PM »
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Whilst our and Burnley's kits have always been listed as claret and blue, I remember a time when West Ham's was referred to as maroon and blue.

I'm not sure what the background is behind this, maybe Sendo or somebody on KUMB knows the story but it was certainly listed in the 70's as maroon.


Pretty sure I remember an episode of Till Death Do Us Part where Garnett referred to West Ham as 'claret and blue' that would be pre-70s.


In Johnny Speight's The Thoughts of Chairman Alf, on Henry VIII - "HE named the ground after his favourite wife of the time, and West Ham play in claret and blue because Henry's favourite wine was claret and blue is for the blue blood of royalty".

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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2010, 07:47:46 PM »
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Whilst our and Burnley's kits have always been listed as claret and blue.


Apart from the chocolate and blue strip. Or the green one. Or the 'piebald' one. Or the black one. Etc etc:

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm












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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2010, 07:49:33 PM »
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The team's first colours were described as "scarlet and royal blue stripes" (ie hoops - vertical stripes did not appear until the 1880s). The following season they wore black and white tops and in 1878 they purchased a set of black shirts emblazoned with the Scottish lion rampant. William McGregor actually went to Scotland to purchase the lion motifs and they were subsequently sewn on by the sister of the club secretary (ref: The Aston Villa Chronicles). The following season jerseys replaced the original shirts and it appears that the lion motif was removed after problems with the laundry. For their game against Heart of Midlothian on New Years' Day 1881, Villa wore navy and white hooped jerseys and there is evidence that these colours were worn at least until April 1883.

A contemporary press report submitted by Lee Gauntlett, states that Villa changed in November 1886 to blue and chocolate vertical stripes from the old piebald strip. John Lerwill's research suggests that vertically striped in black and white were worn from at least May 1886 (and probably considerably earlier) while Bernard Gallagher has uncovered evidence that the piebald shirts were white with red spots and perhaps worn before the striped tops appeared. Given the scarcity of original references it is hard to be certain so the graphics presented above are to a degree, provisional.

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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2010, 07:51:10 PM »
Aren't we something like the 6th oldest club? Professional wise? I think even Wrexham are older than us. Not sure why that's an 'even', mind.

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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2010, 08:18:18 PM »
Older clubs than us (league only)...

Notts County (1862, as Nottingham)
Stoke City (1863, or possibly 1868, as Stoke Ramblers)
Nottingham Forest (1865)
Sheffield Wednesday (1867, as The Wednesday)
Chesterfield (1867)
Rotherham United (1870, as Thornhill)
Reading (1871)
Bolton Wanderers (1874, as Christ Church - possibly before us)
Macclesfield Town (1874, as Macclesfield - possibly before us)

Was most surprised to find Reading were older than us when we played them as I had assumed the Southern clubs all came about much later.

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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2010, 09:22:44 AM »
Don't forget about us guys (Stoke) 150 years old very soon I hope we have great things planned.

I do hope we do something to commemorate with the other existing founder members.

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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2010, 09:25:31 AM »
Looking at this thread and thinking about 150 year old football clubs, the great history of some of our clubs, the massive history of the football league, just makes it all the more depressing to see the financial freakshow the game has become nowadays.

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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2010, 12:45:00 PM »
Reading were only an amateur side then as were all I guess. But the Southern lot didn't join the ranks of the professional leagues until something like 1902.

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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2010, 12:52:43 PM »
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Older clubs than us (league only)...

Notts County (1862, as Nottingham)
Stoke City (1863, or possibly 1868, as Stoke Ramblers)
Nottingham Forest (1865)
Sheffield Wednesday (1867, as The Wednesday)
Chesterfield (1867)
Rotherham United (1870, as Thornhill)
Reading (1871)
Bolton Wanderers (1874, as Christ Church - possibly before us)
Macclesfield Town (1874, as Macclesfield - possibly before us)

Was most surprised to find Reading were older than us when we played them as I had assumed the Southern clubs all came about much later.


So does that mean that there were 3 professional teams in 1865 and 2 were from Nottingham?

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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2010, 01:19:07 PM »
We could never compete with the suave sophisticated London elite though could we?


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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2010, 01:21:04 PM »
And again minutes later as they announced the Poundland January sale.


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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2010, 01:24:26 PM »
And of course one thing West Ham keep quiet about is that they invented ballet too.


 


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